Yep... seems to me Microsoft could easily make the problem go away... I
can't see why it would make a bit of difference if the majority of the
updates took a few weeks to download. Seems to me like it would be better
for pretty much everyone involved.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Limelight.
> I have a 10MB pcap file.
>
> It's not hard to crush a 3mb connection though, so I'm not sure how
> important this case is going to be.  I wish msoft's updater would look at
> average throughput over the first 5 minutes of an update, then limit itself
> to half of that.  If they did that, I would never even know the updates
> were running.  Or just limit non-critical updates to 128kbps.  It might
> take 10 weeks to finish, but would I really care?  Or for Pete's sake just
> let me configure a limit of my choosing.
>
> Anyway, I do appreciate you taking the effort to look for answers at the
> CDN level.  Just seems to me that Microsoft could easily make the problem
> not exist.
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 7/12/2017 8:59:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft Updates Thrashing Connections
>
> Oh, that's unlikely to be of significant help, but I can check. What is
> the CDN it's connected to?
>
>
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> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:55:04 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft Updates Thrashing Connections
>
> Windows update is using my entire 3mbps connection right at this moment.
> I have a pcap, but it's from my side and in this case i don't have access
> to the provider side.
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 7/11/2017 8:25:28 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Microsoft Updates Thrashing Connections
>
> It's Patch Tuesday, so I figured I'd pop in to remind people that have
> issues with Microsoft Updates to get packet captures of the problems at
> least one level upstream of whatever device is doing the rate limiting.
> When you have them, let me know so we can coordinate with whichever CDN and
> Microsoft to look into why it is happening.
>
> We're specifically looking for times when there are dozens of TCP
> connections open for the transfer or when the CDN is ignoring TCP norms and
> sending more bits than the customer is limited to.
>
>
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