Boy is that true.

Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Joe Falaschi <listm...@wi.net> wrote:

> We had a guy like this - on paper the most willing to work and a company
> man through and through.  I feel like we were in your same situation
> though.  Eventually he got in a situation where our hand was forced to let
> him go.  Now that it’s happened we have found employees who are much better
> all around.  It’s kind of like his willingness to do whatever it takes was
> to cover up for the other issues.  Think about it but from someone who has
> let a fair share of people go through the years, I’ve never regretted it
> after it was done.  Some of our staff who still keeps in touch with him is
> like, whatever you do, don’t bring him back.  Or xyz strikes again.  It’s
> only after the fact that you fully realize the full extent of how bad
> things probably are.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2017, at 6:27 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> And this is where things get weird and why he's still around.
>
> The answer to these questions is - yes.
>
> He will respond to an outage regardless of where he is or what he's doing.
>
> He has responded to problems on days off.
>
> He honestly seems like he WANTS to do things. But possibly lacks the
> ability to do things.
>
> Some things can be taught. Others can't. I'm just struggling to make sure
> I'm making the right decision.
>
> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:26 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> In all seriousness, from a guy who takes his job way too serious... not
> only is a problematic employee an issue in the normal sense to the company,
> but he qill cost you good employees, the dedicated kind who will give you
> their blood in a pinch.
> Do you think the problematic guy will leave his kids birthday party to
> come get ten of your customers up? ..... he wont
> Do you think he will spend his spare time discussing industry issues,
> maintain a handful of social media sock account to ensure he has access to
> trending issues.... he wont
> Will he work late on the day hes supposed to leave on a vacation to make
> sure everything is good while hes gone ... he wont.
> Will he own issues and show up after hours to come fix them because its
> his fault... he wont
> I know the guy youre talking about. Not by name, or face, but hes common,
> and he costs alot of companiea their growth. Do you think at the end of the
> day he cares.... he doesnt.
>
> The point is, the guys who will do the above, unless theyre ignorant
> gluttons for punishment who dont have it in them to walk away, will walk
> away while youre cupping this guys balls.... seriously, dont cup the balls.
> This is how workplace shootings ignite. Grow your company cull the herd.
>
> On Jul 22, 2017 9:59 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> There was an fairly young employee at the wisp which was a general screw
> up.   After no end of second chances with no real change,  they finally
> canned him.  This was several years ago.
>
> One day a while back I was down at the wisp and this employee is working
> for the wisp again.   Apparently after getting fired,  he spent a couple
> years growing up.  I've even heard of him chastising another installer for
> some of the crap he used to pull.
>
> My point is that sometimes getting fired is a better wake up call than
> giving an employee a second chance
>
> On Jul 22, 2017 8:16 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> How do you gain wisdom without failure?
>>
>> We can try to learn from others, but those lessons are far less effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Matt Hoppes
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>> > So let me throw another question out.
>> >
>> > Say the guy does an OK job at installs, but he wants to do more.  But he
>> > completely screws up the "more" any time he's tried to do it.
>> >
>> > How do you handle that situation?  I'm willing to let my main issues
>> slide
>> > on account of the Peter Principle if he can do OK installs.  But he says
>> > over and over he doesn't want to do installs forever.
>> >
>> > So will he be unhappy?  Demoralized?  Etc, if that's all I keep him on?
>> I
>> > feel like yes.
>> >
>> > I'm in a really difficult position right now and need to figure out how
>> to
>> > address it next week.. =\
>> >
>> > Yeah Employees!
>>
>
>
>

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