If you have a liquid pickup on your large tank you can top them with gravity 
only.  It’s wastes a bit if fuel but you can fill them all the way up.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator

They recomend running the exaust at the tank in the winter, its caveated with 
keeping it at a safe distance. They start fine in the cold. There is a model 
with waterproof plugs, but weve never had issue with rain or snow. 
These are nice, i can toss it in my front seat with a tall tank in my alero, 
the gas ones were too big. We have 5 or six portable gas generators collecting 
dust now
Transport of fuel and runtime are huge factors, 48 hours of gasoline is alot of 
gas, and youd need an external tank. Propane wont varnish your engine guts 
either. The only thing i dont like about propane is around here nobody will top 
off tanks by weight, they charge a full fill rate, so short runs are 
irritating. Talked to the local propane dealer about topping off from our 
office generator tank, but the pump would be expensive and insuring that is 
expensive.
We have a split hose too so we can run dual tanks if we know a site will be 
down for an extended time.

We do have some lightweight carbon fiber tanks that you can see the liquid 
level, those are nice. We also use a big heavy chain and padlock to keep the 
generator from walking away, these WILL get stolen.

They have a standby with remote start and all that jazz for about 5k, its way 
more generator than any of our sites need, but its an option.

On Aug 3, 2017 7:03 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Because gas goes stale, spoils, coats the insides of everything with varnish 
etc.  
  Propane is OK in cold weather but there is a minimum tank size for specific 
deliveries at different low temps.  The more gas you need or the lower the temp 
the larger the tank.

  But for a small generator like this, I really think a 5 gallon tank will take 
you to below zero.  
  Perfectly efficient 1000 watts is 3412 Btu/hr  But in the real world figure 
10 btu/hr per watt.  

  If it scales linearly, a 5 gallon tank can deliver about 5000 btu/hr at 0 
degrees F.  
  So perhaps a 500 watt load on the generator.  

  Actually I found a chart:


  So, assuming you need 10,000 BTU for 1000 watts, your 5 gallon barbecue grill 
tank will work down to 0 degrees until it drops below 20% full.  


  From: Brandon Yuchasz 
  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 5:49 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator

  We are in need of a new generator so I am following along with interest. My 
question is why not just use gas instead of propane? What is the up side. 
Second question is how does the propane fair in cold weather. Say 20F or less?



  Thanks,

  Brandon





  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator



  How do you weatherproof it, aren't the plugs just exposed on the side?  

  On 8/3/2017 5:09 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

    http://www.genconnexdirect.net/honda_propane_modified_generators.htm





    On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
<j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:

    Where did you buy that nice machine?



    Jim







    Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone





    -------- Original message --------

    From: Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 

    Date: 8/3/17 1:05 PM (GMT-06:00) 

    To: af@afmug.com 

    Subject: [AFMUG] Great portable propane generator 



    We have a smaller one that started having problems, but this has all the 
prpane guts on the inside and a quick connect hose. Will run close to 48 hours 
on a small tank in eco mode. 

    Easy to start, runs like a champ in all weather conditions





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