Marketing – always a question of how far do you stretch the truth.
How many products have been announced with an artists conception or rendering
of the product as they hope it to be...
Our community is just particularly sensitive due to the fact the almost all of
us have run lotsa CAT5 and fiber in equipment rooms.
I liked Forrest’s analogy of hotels.
We all own hotels, and someone puts up a photo showing they have a very nice
pool, but we know the pool is not in at their hotel yet. So some of us point
that out.
Real estate developers always have artists renderings that they use to
pre-sell. An IX could be thought of as a multi tenant dwelling. OK, so they
plan on putting dishwashers in all the units, just not done yet.
From: Paul Stewart
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 5:56 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
I believe the issue is that the picture may not represent the actual IX in
question (or MMR of the building where the IX is located might be more
accurate). Basically, and pardon me possibly putting words in some people’s
mouthes here, when a group of people put a lot of work into something and then
a picture of that work is used elsewhere to possibly resemble where a potential
employee would work then it’s just misleading and could be considered offensive
to the people who did all the work originally ….. make sense?
You’ll notice my choice of words here because I’m making assumptions about why
the folks involved are upset and try to put myself in their shoes, at which
point, if I have all my facts straight, I would be quite upset as well because
it would look like someone else is taking complete credit for someone else’s
work …. In the world of IX’s (something I do know a lot about) there is often
people who don’t get pay checks as they volunteer however they get the rewards
to contributing towards a great thing for the community … if you haven’t been
involved at that level you may not understand anything I’m suggesting here ….
Paul
On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
Question??
Eric
Why are you so upset?
Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time?
I agree with Faisal it's a picture
Mitch
On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Share with you a related story....
I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had
some pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was one
picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a picture of
cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility...
Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ...
so instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice picture
! I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How dare you take
pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we don't buy roof access
from them) !...
To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I
actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable
enough to put in their conf. room.
Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then
why does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that picture of
an actual facility you know is being liked by others and being promoted on the
net...
and that is IMHO !
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may vary
!.
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Eric Kuhnke" mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a
request.
Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me
room to advertise the Missouri IX.
Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great deal
of time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure.
In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever
facilities may currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a carrier
hotel in downtown Seattle.
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