If an electric car pays no fuel tax, can a hybrid diesel-electric use red diesel? :-)
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:15:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over gas Generator gas is offroad, you folks buying generator gas surely arent paying road tax. On Aug 31, 2017 8:11 PM, "Richard Strittmatter" < rich...@mesh.net > wrote: Funny you say that about the tank. We just had to “borrow” some diesel from one of our extra tanks to our colo genset, to get one of our guys to the next station that had diesel.. It was over 20+ miles away, and his 2500 was past E.. We had to call around to see who had fuel for him. It’s pretty crazy here in DFW, most of the stations here have 0.00 on their signs denoting that they have no gas. People lined up all down the access roads for fuel for the stations that do. All mine stay pretty full, but I’ve always done that. I personally think the media should be ashamed of the panic they set off, but it’s all about what gets people pumped up, to them. My wife works for a municipality, and their officers spent a fair amount of time at gas stations today. They are short handed already, because they have sent a contingent down to Houston. Richard Strittmatter From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 3:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OFF TOPIC - starting to get dicey in TX over gas I have an 8000 gallon tank of diesel at my shop. Hope I don't have to refill it before the prices come back down. On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:43 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Its much less awful than initial estimates. They had said we would be down to just over 50% refining capacity, as it stands we are still in the mid to high 70s, and as I understand it only one refinery is slated to be offline for an extended time. Its best to just get 20 or 30 gallons in reserve cans in the garage, more if you have the capacity. It shouldnt be impactful, but we are coming up on the labor day price hike, in conjunction with this, theres going to be some gouging attempts, but its been made federally clear that gouging wont be tolerated. On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Cameron Crum < cc...@wispmon.com > wrote: So a news report came out claiming that the gas stations would soon run out of gas because the refineries are all shut down. So, guess what started happening in Fort Worth, a run on gas. I went to fill up my wife's car last night as it was running on about 1/8 tank and all the pumps were busy. I thought that was strange at 10pm. This morning, the local 7-11 where I make a morning stop had 4 deep at each pump. At lunch, every gas station I passed was the same. My truck was on E so I had to wait. I went home, emptied all my gas cans into my project truck, and went back and got in line. For the most part people were being courteous, but when I got out of my truck, a guy in a black BMW and a woman in red sedan were going at it over who was supposed to get the pump next at the pump in front of mine. She was threatening to back into his car so he called the cops. The truck in front of him pulled out so he got a pump and she got a pump in less than 30 seconds of arguing. He told her he had called the cops, so she then called the cops and claimed the guy accosted her, making it a priority call so they showed up quick. He pumped his gas and left and she waited for the cops. The look on the cops face said it all, "why the f*ck am I dealing with this woman with everything that is going on?" Fort Worth sent 100 offices down to Houston so they are short staffed right now, and an argument at the gas pump is not a high priority. Anyway, just a heads up as to what might be coming to the rest of the country soon. Most of the gas is refined down this way, so unless things get better fast, there could be shortages in a lot of places. </blockquote>