Swap #2 and #3
And the split was between Wireless Beehive/Beehive Telephone and Wireless 
Beehive Mfg.  

Later I mothballed Wireless Beehive Mfg as McCown tech owned all the equipment 
and intellectual property.  

The legal battle has entered its fourth year.  Wheeeeeee!

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug

The AFMUG list has travelled through at least 4 hosts: 

1) Part-15.org, until Michael Anderson's memorable "I QUIT" and pulling the 
plug on the server...
2) Wireless Beehive, until the unfortunate split with Beehive Mfg/McCown Tech
3) WISPA, until some discussions about list sponsorship/content control?
4) PDMnet, as Paul offered their support to simplify the above


It's safe to say PDMnet will be around and supporting AFMUG for a long time, 
however many are pitching in to keep their accountants happy about it too.


On Sep 16, 2017 10:01 AM, "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:

  I guess I'm the odd ball out, what are we donating to/for?

  On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    I ante’d up too, start dealing.  

    From: Jeremy 
    Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:08 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug

    Just sent you $100 (cyber-surplus)

    On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

      Thanks Steve,  



      I was thinking of that also.  It’s actually more than that, we kept the 
support only because there wasn’t a decent pay per incident plan with anything 
that added value to solving a problem.



      So, its around $ 200 per month.  Last time, we got in $ 950 
(approximately).  I don’t mind a difficiency (meaning PDMNet pays a decent part 
of it). And, we did it the first 2 years fully bearing costs.



      We really don’t mind doing this.  I know there was a discussion last time 
about options.  My simple statement is “It works great” one less thing to deal 
with, yet getting good results.



      Any contributions are certainly welcome, especially at this time.  We 
have heavy losses with customer gear and recovery costs.  The largest part of 
our coverage area got 100mph+ gusts.  A very large tree came apart (probably a 
tornado) and blew that and a bunch of other stuff into a Rohn 25G 150ft. and 
brought it down.  Trashed everything on the tower also. So, there is a $ 15K 
hit to get a new one up (Rohn 45G)  and they just got the land cleared 
yesterday,  trying to get new foundation work done.  



      It was a tower site that we acquired and the foundations turned out to be 
substandard, so we have to start from scratch and the property owner is not 
contributing as he “Doesn’t make enough money from it”.



      Our paypal address is pa...@pdmnet.net



      Paul



      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
      Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:56 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug



      Last update btw, was about 1800 bucks a year without support.



      On Sep 14, 2017 11:30 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Its been a bit since a benefit drive for the list. Current situations 
with weather and all might indicate a need for an afmug influx again. My 
donations come out of my personal pockets. Im personally rich in spirit, poor 
in cash. But can we get the paypal address back up so right now that cashflow 
isnt a concern?








  -- 

  Adair Winter
  VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
  Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
  C: 806.231.7180
  http://www.amarillowireless.net





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