I would rather not name the vendors at this time.

On Sep 21, 2017 2:30 AM, "Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:

> Josh
>
> Will you shall the radio info?
>
> Mitch
>
> On 9/21/2017 12:57 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> ​The frequency agility between the radios is 800 mhz. Vastly different
> radio filters.
> Both are capable of similar channel bandwidths.
> This is all done at MCS0 / QPSK
>
> I'm comparing, basically, their sensitivity and selectivity. The radio
> that is frequency capable of 200mhz is also capable of hitting 4096QAM,
> while the radio capable of operating in a 1GHz range of frequencies is
> 256QAM capable.
>
> Basically, it's (the 256QAM radio) sensitivity at the same modulation and
> the same power is wayyyyyy closer​ than I would expect it should be -
> vastly different, and far cheaper components. TL;DR: I'm calling BS on the
> data sheet :)
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you give specific examples?  Having a hard time understanding for
>> sure the exact specs you're comparing.
>>
>> In relation to the thermal noise floor:  just reducing from 1000mz to
>> 200mhz will gain you ~7db of noise floor.   But usually that's in a
>> channel, not in the entire 'frequency agility' area.  Maybe they aren't all
>> that selective within the 1Ghz bandwidth.
>>
>> I've never been able to find a chart of theoretical required s/n ratio
>> for each of the QAM's so I can't comment on how much difference there is
>> supposed to be - after all, with everything else being the same (channel,
>> modulation, power, etc), 256QAM should definitely require a lower signal
>> strength than a 4096QAM radio.    They definitely shouldn't be the same
>> with the same channel width, unless one radio is noisier or more
>> susceptible to noise.
>>
>> And sensitivity should just be about the receiver, not the transmitter.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone smarter than I fill me in on something? I'm comparing some
>>> radios here (no names...)
>>>
>>> One radio is 256 QAM, with a 1000mhz operating range
>>>
>>> Another one is 4096 QAM, with a 200mhz operating range
>>>
>>> Can you explain to me how the sensitivity on the 256QAM radio, at the
>>> same modulation rate, same (scaled) power level, claims to be with a
>>> single dB or two as sensitive as the 4096QAM radio with an 800mhz
>>> smaller operating range?
>>>
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>> Thanks :)
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Josh Reynolds
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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