We did at our fiber company.

I don't remember the exact percentage, but I do remember it being above 60%
of people only have access to a single provider.

If you remove the ROW access for BIAS providers, lower "broadband" to 10M,
and allow providers to throttle other content, the odds are so
overwhelmingly stacked against new regional ISPs, existing providers who
just haven't expanded yet, and the general population of this country...
And solely provides more welfare to expand the existing cable and Telco
monopolies.




On Sep 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

You're wrong.  :-p

Did anyone actually utilize that ROW access under NN and not something else
like being a CLEC? Spend a couple thousand bucks and you're a CLEC, if you
need to be in your jurisdiction for ROW access. Around here you can just
apply and get the ROW access you desire.

They weren't directly throttled, but yes, ran through congested peering and
transit. So what if they do? Business choice. That gives you or me the
opportunity to come through with Netflix that doesn't suck and steal the
customer.




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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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*From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:33:20 AM

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

If I'm wrong, say so, but NN seems to be the only thing keep providers from
throttling down third party eyeball content to prioritize their own.

Also, that ROW access many of us enjoyed as BIAS providers was tied to that
as well.

My memory is fuzzy though.

On Sep 28, 2017 7:23 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> The only way forward is to repeal Net Neutrality.
>
>
>
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> Mike Hammett
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> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:30:44 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
>
> There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not.
>
> Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked.
>
> On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc-
>> net-neutrality-isp
>>
>>
>> I pretty much had to quit reading when this idiot sated what the FCCs job
>> is
>>
>
>

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