I think the best thing to do is wait to see if the authorities can find a 
motive. I’ve got family up there in Law Enforcement but haven’t heard from them 
yet.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting

+1, let's please not get into a political fight.


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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 10/2/2017 12:42:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting

While I won't get into gun politics I will say there are a bunch of extremely 
fervent views on the subject. All dearly felt with logical reasons behind them. 
I am not sure the opposing sides think the opposition's reasons are valid. I 
think we can agree, without political discussions, that crazy is crazy. And 
while I hate to see this like everyone else, I don't think most freedom loving 
people would be willing to do what it takes to stop all potentially crazy 
people from doing such things.

I would hope to head off any political debates on the list.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Jeremy 
<jeremysmi...@gmail.com<mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I had never seen these bump stop devices.  It is hard to believe that they are 
legal, and do not require a machine gun license.  I expect that will not last.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Well crazy is crazy no matter what.  I don't care what allegiance they 
claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person.  People died for no 
good reason.  As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to guns has got 
to change.  Fuck the politics.

On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum" 
<cc...@wispmon.com<mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:
Well that is some relief.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert 
<i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
FBI says no...

On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not verified 
yet, but if true is pretty scary.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman 
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    I have never been asked any questions coming in and out of Vegas
    hotels. There are so many conventions they are used to people who
    don't like storing all their expensive gear in the conference room
    or whatever.

    On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones
    <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

        10 rifles and 10k rounds isnt alot of real estate for travel
        luggage transport

        On Oct 2, 2017 10:35 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
        <losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
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        wrote:

            Bet you surveillance footage is getting analyzed.  I am
            aware guns can be disassembled to fit in suitcase or travel
            bags...but 10 guns if report is accurate...wow.
            On Oct 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "Robert" 
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wrote:

                Expect metal detectors going in immediately...

                On 10/2/17 7:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

                    I won't be surprised if there were baggage checks at
                    the casino.

                    Mike Hammett wrote:

                        It would be irrational to change your plans, but
                        we're all just people.



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                        I wonder if attendance to the WISPA show will be
                        down from this

                        On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Jay Weekley
                        
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                             A week later and some of us may have been
                        at the concert.

                             Robert wrote:

                                 A best friend and his brother were
                        there and had bullets
                                 wizzing by him and hitting the ground
                        around him and had
                                 people falling around him.

                                 On 10/2/17 4:12 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

                                     I have a co-worker who is there on
                        a vacation for his
                                     birthday until Wednesday. Haven't
                        heard from him yet.

                                     On Oct 2, 2017 5:51 AM, "Forrest
                        Christian (List Account)"
                                     
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                                         I'm not really even sure what
                        to say.  This keeps
                                     getting worse and
                                         worse as more details come in.

                                         A different festival on a
                        different night and I could
                                     have been
                                         among the crowd.  Makes it even
                        more real.

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