On a side note, most AGM batteries are also DOT approved (at least the 
Northstar brand is), so you can "legally" carry them in your vehicle without 
worrying about hazmat.

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----- Original Message -----
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 10:16:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed or flooded batteries for DC backup?

AGM are great, unless you are cheap...

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 9:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sealed or flooded batteries for DC backup?

Gave up flooded years ago.  Had a few sites where the APC exploded the 
batteries.  Even when that didn't happen, I got tired of the yearly battery 
check and fill at all the sites.  When I started my own company I switched to 
AGM and never looked back.  They are amazing.  Also, we don't use APCs anymore 
except at a couple of large sites where we use the 3000XL, which has a much 
better charging system.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:38 AM, David M <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

  there is always an evaporation issue with flooded..

  They have to be maintained on a regular schedule in order to have extended 
life beyond 5 yrs

  AGM/GEL expensive but reliable with little maintenance. Give em a good home 
and little venting and get

  7 to 10 with those. 





  On 1/4/2018 3:47 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

    Sounds like a problem with the Charge controller being incorrectly set. If 
this is on-grid, I would lower the voltage the charge controller is maintaining 
and make sure it is set to NOT do any equalize cycles.

    Then flooded should be better.  Of course if the environment is causing 
evaporation that is a different problem.

    I didn't find telecom batteries were worth the expense.  So if I dumped 
wet, I would probably go with sealed Marine..

    Best,
        Robert

    On 01/04/2018 01:38 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

      I have been really liking flooded batteries over the last 10 years or so 
because I am able to service the battery and extend the life but I am finding 
that on sites that I forget to add distilled water at least twice a year 
sometimes the batteries dry out due to the charge controller over gassing the 
batteries.

      Right now I'm trying to decide between Walmart deep Cycles, rack mount 
telecom batteries or just sealed RV Marine deep cycle batteries.

      What is the best bang-for-the-buck currently considering the life span 
and capacity ?

      Thanks

      TJ



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