The problem I see with NN is the customer will never understand it properly. They will make demands that their 1 meg connection should be as good as someone who pays for a 100 meg or 1 gig connection. They will say the others are getting priority and not them and as such violating NN. The whole concept of “fast lanes” is really just buying more bandwidth. While I do acknowledge you can put various interfaces in priority, unless you actually get more bandwidth I question how effective that would be without the extra purchased capacity.
The other aspect of this whole debate is that the public and I dare say some ISP’s have lost sight of the fact that if there are unfair business practices, that is under the authority of the Feral Trade Commission, not the FCC. The FCC jumped in to this and overextended their authority, but hey that is what people in power try to do to develop their little kingdoms and power base. As others have said, this was not a problem before and the free market and competition will keep it from being a problem in the future. I sure as hell would not want the government telling me how to run my network that I built with my money. The public still does not understand that there is no public internet, it’s just a system of interconnected private networks build with private money (excepting some last mile grant funded projects). How a carrier wants to manage their network traffic is up to them. If they don’t do a good job customers will walk. If word gets out that a network operator conducts unfair practices, word will get out and fast. Customers will be in an uproar and they will crucify said carrier/ISP. Social media has a way of making that happen overnight. Having mapped and tracked carrier data for many years now and for 5 of those years having access to data under NDA, I personally saw over time carriers that had various markets locked up with almost no competition still innovate, upgrade and improve their networks. This was due to customer demand and market changes. These carriers could have sat back and not spent money upgrading speeds and network infrastructure and just kept collecting money from the customer base, yet they did not. So the big carrier boogeyman syndrome that people are worried about happening, just is going to happen. I am more worried about the content providers like Facebook and Google being the evil ones, if that ever comes to pass. Let’s not let our distaste for competitors cloud the overwhelming amount of hard data that is out there that speaks to the contrary. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 5:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Montana Governor Signs Order to Force Net Neutrality - The New York Times Disney pioneered this From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 3:01 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Montana Governor Signs Order to Force Net Neutrality - The New York Times Well, I don't know... paying extra to get to the front of the line at Burger king doesn't sound like such a bad idea to me... they just have to market it properly, and call it a discount for going to the back of the line, and people would be perfectly happy. On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 2:19 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: lmao it just got downright stupid https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180124005145/en/BURGER-KING%C2%AE-Brand-Takes-Net-Neutrality-%E2%80%9CWHOPPER%C2%AE how about that TSA fast lane thing, hows that work? Ipass for toll roads? Hell, even 8 items or less express lanes at the supermarkets On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote: Exactly, has anyone seen any changes since NN was overturned? Nope, and they won’t. The free market will control it. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 <tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> <http://www.serverplus.com/> New logo xl http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png Utah 100 fast50-01Inc 5000 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Montana Governor Signs Order to Force Net Neutrality - The New York Times I think there is NN irrespective of whatever laws they pass. Market forces will cause it to happen. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Montana Governor Signs Order to Force Net Neutrality - The New York Times Chuck said the NN thing is over.... How would this be enforced on the cellular side. Sprints offering cap free netflix, isnt that a violation of NN? If state funding has gone into any "coops" like it has here, how does that work if the "coop" no longer chooses to abide by NN. Can montana retroactively alter the contract? On Jan 22, 2018 10:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/technology/montana-net-neutrality.html?referer=https://news.google.com/ Jaime Solorza