>>It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that the >>mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level.
Amen Brother Josh ! Hallelujah ! That's the Truth ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 3:54:41 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? > Again, last time, people need to stop looking for "the most powerful long > range > AP" :) > It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that the > mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level. > Remember, you don't want a bunch of low signal devices bringing overall > capacity > down. You don't want your APs to hear nearby APs. You want good TX AND RX > signal on each device. My UniFi APs are actually set to not let devices > maintain connection below a -74. I overlap APs accordingly, only only have 2 > using 2.4GHz at all (set to lower power). Everything else is 5GHz. > I can walk out to the street, walk way out to the street behind my barn, and I > have coverage everywhere. My APs in the front of the property see the APs in > the back with around an -84 to -88 depending. Also covers from basement to > second floor. > If I upgrade an AP, devices instantly roam to another nearby AP and don't drop > their stream or sessions. > On Feb 1, 2018 11:27 AM, "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: >> That's certainly true. >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Dan Parrish" < tci...@outlook.com > >> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > >> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:25:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? >>> More gain at the AP doesn't help hidden node problems between handsets. >>> --dan >>> On 2/1/2018 11:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>> I'd suggest more Tx Power at the AP doesn't help with the tiny >>>> handset/laptop. >>>> More gain ought to. >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Dan Parrish" < tci...@outlook.com > >>>> To: "af@afmug.com" < af@afmug.com > >>>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:21:03 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? >>>>> I agree that the square original Unifi AC PRO model wasn't the best >>>>> "value," but >>>>> I used several of them across the street just fine. Was about 200 feet >>>>> through >>>>> at least two exterior stucco walls, so seemed pretty good. >>>>> More gain at the AP doesn't change the physics of the (assumed) handset >>>>> having a >>>>> tiny antenna with awful radiation patterns. For this reason, I don't >>>>> believe in >>>>> "long-range" access points nowadays. Where it makes sense, try to place >>>>> two or >>>>> more access points closer to your usage areas instead of one >>>>> centrally-located >>>>> one. The days of one access point in the middle of the warehouse are >>>>> over, IMO. >>>>> --dan >>>>> On 2/1/2018 1:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >>>>>> I'm talking about the first ever unifi AC ap, it was junk. >>>>>> You had to have line of site to connect to the stupid thing (almost), but >>>>>> seriously like 15ft range @ 5ghz, maybe 25ft @ 2.4ghz >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes - I can confirm that the new-ish Lites are 802.3af. >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I have a bunch of the UAP-AC-LITE (802.11ac, 2x2, dual band) which are >>>>>>>> like $79. >>>>>>>> The ones I have are 24VDC gigabit only. Have heard that the newest >>>>>>>> shipping >>>>>>>> version of the same model does support 802.3af power now, which is >>>>>>>> convenient. >>>>>>>> Don't quite understand how TJ wasn't happy with them being a "flop". >>>>>>>> If you want a properly set up Unifi controller virtual machine or >>>>>>>> physical >>>>>>>> system on a network, it does take a bit of Linux knowledge to do it >>>>>>>> right, and >>>>>>>> ensure that it can be continually updated. >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine. We use them everywhere. >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ Trout < t...@voltbb.com > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I guess I need more penetration or another e400, but they can't >>>>>>>>>> seamlessly roam >>>>>>>>>> right? >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> E400 Hands down.. We are using them every where. >>>>>>>>>>> Have not tried new 410 yet but was very impressed with 400 >>>>>>>>>>> On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> First I started out with Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling mount the original >>>>>>>>>>>> version which >>>>>>>>>>>> was a complete flop and waste of money. I didn't upgraded to the >>>>>>>>>>>> cambium e400 >>>>>>>>>>>> but I've moved into a larger house now and the coverage is not >>>>>>>>>>>> very good. >>>>>>>>>>>> What is the best option currently for the longest range most >>>>>>>>>>>> reliable ceiling >>>>>>>>>>>> mount AP available? >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!! >>>>>>>>>>>> TJ >>>>>>>>>>> --