>>It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that the 
>>mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level. 

Amen Brother Josh ! 
Hallelujah ! That's the Truth ! 

:) 

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> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 3:54:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

> Again, last time, people need to stop looking for "the most powerful long 
> range
> AP" :)

> It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that the
> mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level.

> Remember, you don't want a bunch of low signal devices bringing overall 
> capacity
> down. You don't want your APs to hear nearby APs. You want good TX AND RX
> signal on each device. My UniFi APs are actually set to not let devices
> maintain connection below a -74. I overlap APs accordingly, only only have 2
> using 2.4GHz at all (set to lower power). Everything else is 5GHz.

> I can walk out to the street, walk way out to the street behind my barn, and I
> have coverage everywhere. My APs in the front of the property see the APs in
> the back with around an -84 to -88 depending. Also covers from basement to
> second floor.

> If I upgrade an AP, devices instantly roam to another nearby AP and don't drop
> their stream or sessions.

> On Feb 1, 2018 11:27 AM, "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> That's certainly true.

>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Dan Parrish" < tci...@outlook.com >
>> To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com >
>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:25:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

>>> More gain at the AP doesn't help hidden node problems between handsets.

>>> --dan

>>> On 2/1/2018 11:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

>>>> I'd suggest more Tx Power at the AP doesn't help with the tiny 
>>>> handset/laptop.
>>>> More gain ought to.

>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Dan Parrish" < tci...@outlook.com >
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" < af@afmug.com >
>>>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:21:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

>>>>> I agree that the square original Unifi AC PRO model wasn't the best 
>>>>> "value," but
>>>>> I used several of them across the street just fine. Was about 200 feet 
>>>>> through
>>>>> at least two exterior stucco walls, so seemed pretty good.

>>>>> More gain at the AP doesn't change the physics of the (assumed) handset 
>>>>> having a
>>>>> tiny antenna with awful radiation patterns. For this reason, I don't 
>>>>> believe in
>>>>> "long-range" access points nowadays. Where it makes sense, try to place 
>>>>> two or
>>>>> more access points closer to your usage areas instead of one 
>>>>> centrally-located
>>>>> one. The days of one access point in the middle of the warehouse are 
>>>>> over, IMO.

>>>>> --dan

>>>>> On 2/1/2018 1:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

>>>>>> I'm talking about the first ever unifi AC ap, it was junk.

>>>>>> You had to have line of site to connect to the stupid thing (almost), but
>>>>>> seriously like 15ft range @ 5ghz, maybe 25ft @ 2.4ghz

>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com > 
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> Yes - I can confirm that the new-ish Lites are 802.3af.

>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > 
>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> I have a bunch of the UAP-AC-LITE (802.11ac, 2x2, dual band) which are 
>>>>>>>> like $79.
>>>>>>>> The ones I have are 24VDC gigabit only. Have heard that the newest 
>>>>>>>> shipping
>>>>>>>> version of the same model does support 802.3af power now, which is 
>>>>>>>> convenient.
>>>>>>>> Don't quite understand how TJ wasn't happy with them being a "flop".

>>>>>>>> If you want a properly set up Unifi controller virtual machine or 
>>>>>>>> physical
>>>>>>>> system on a network, it does take a bit of Linux knowledge to do it 
>>>>>>>> right, and
>>>>>>>> ensure that it can be continually updated.

>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com > 
>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine. We use them everywhere.

>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ Trout < t...@voltbb.com > wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> I guess I need more penetration or another e400, but they can't 
>>>>>>>>>> seamlessly roam
>>>>>>>>>> right?

>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave < dmilho...@wletc.com > wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> E400 Hands down.. We are using them every where.
>>>>>>>>>>> Have not tried new 410 yet but was very impressed with 400

>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> First I started out with Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling mount the original 
>>>>>>>>>>>> version which
>>>>>>>>>>>> was a complete flop and waste of money. I didn't upgraded to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cambium e400
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I've moved into a larger house now and the coverage is not 
>>>>>>>>>>>> very good.

>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the best option currently for the longest range most 
>>>>>>>>>>>> reliable ceiling
>>>>>>>>>>>> mount AP available?

>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>> TJ

>>>>>>>>>>> --

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