Yeah, type of customer you don't want as a rule of thumb. :) On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> They sure sound needy. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, February 1, 2018 5:30:18 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? > > The design was created to meet the needs of the owner. > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nobody's saying you're wrong, but aren't you kind of overbuilding your >> home WiFi? >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 2/1/2018 3:54:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? >> >> Again, last time, people need to stop looking for "the most powerful long >> range AP" :) >> >> It doesn't matter if the wireless device can hear the AP, it matters that >> the mobile device can talk to the AP with a respectable signal level. >> >> Remember, you don't want a bunch of low signal devices bringing overall >> capacity down. You don't want your APs to hear nearby APs. You want good TX >> AND RX signal on each device. My UniFi APs are actually set to not let >> devices maintain connection below a -74. I overlap APs accordingly, only >> only have 2 using 2.4GHz at all (set to lower power). Everything else is >> 5GHz. >> >> I can walk out to the street, walk way out to the street behind my barn, >> and I have coverage everywhere. My APs in the front of the property see the >> APs in the back with around an -84 to -88 depending. Also covers from >> basement to second floor. >> >> If I upgrade an AP, devices instantly roam to another nearby AP and don't >> drop their stream or sessions. >> >> On Feb 1, 2018 11:27 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> That's certainly true. >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Dan Parrish" <tci...@outlook.com> >>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:25:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? >>> >>> More gain at the AP doesn't help hidden node problems between handsets. >>> >>> --dan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/1/2018 11:24 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>> >>> I'd suggest more *Tx Power* at the AP doesn't help with the tiny >>> handset/laptop. More gain ought to. >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Dan Parrish" <tci...@outlook.com> >>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> <af@afmug.com> >>> Sent: 2/1/2018 12:21:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? >>> >>> I agree that the square original Unifi AC PRO model wasn't the best >>> "value," but I used several of them across the street just fine. Was about >>> 200 feet through at least two exterior stucco walls, so seemed pretty good. >>> >>> More gain at the AP doesn't change the physics of the (assumed) handset >>> having a tiny antenna with awful radiation patterns. For this reason, I >>> don't believe in "long-range" access points nowadays. Where it makes sense, >>> try to place two or more access points closer to your usage areas instead >>> of one centrally-located one. The days of one access point in the middle of >>> the warehouse are over, IMO. >>> >>> --dan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/1/2018 1:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >>> >>> I'm talking about the first ever unifi AC ap, it was junk. >>> >>> You had to have line of site to connect to the stupid thing (almost), >>> but seriously like 15ft range @ 5ghz, maybe 25ft @ 2.4ghz >>> >>> [image: Inline image 1] >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes - I can confirm that the new-ish Lites are 802.3af. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a bunch of the UAP-AC-LITE (802.11ac, 2x2, dual band) which are >>>>> like $79. The ones I have are 24VDC gigabit only. Have heard that the >>>>> newest shipping version of the same model does support 802.3af power now, >>>>> which is convenient. Don't quite understand how TJ wasn't happy with them >>>>> being a "flop". >>>>> >>>>> If you want a properly set up Unifi controller virtual machine or >>>>> physical system on a network, it does take a bit of Linux knowledge to do >>>>> it right, and ensure that it can be continually updated. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine. We use them everywhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess I need more penetration or another e400, but they can't >>>>>>> seamlessly roam right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> E400 Hands down.. We are using them every where. >>>>>>>> Have not tried new 410 yet but was very impressed with 400 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First I started out with Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling mount the original >>>>>>>> version which was a complete flop and waste of money. I didn't >>>>>>>> upgraded to >>>>>>>> the cambium e400 but I've moved into a larger house now and the >>>>>>>> coverage is >>>>>>>> not very good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is the best option currently for the longest range most >>>>>>>> reliable ceiling mount AP available? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > >
