If you operate a business from your home and send your drone up to check
your gutters for leaves, you need a license

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> So, I went and brushed up on the non-commerical rules just because I
> haven't paid much attention to them recently, and they seem to have changed
> a bit, probably partially due to the law which was passed a few months ago
> ...
>
> I agree 100%.  For non-commerical, everything I read indicates that within
> 5 miles of any airport/heliport you simply need to call the airport
> owner/tower/etc. to notify them of your operation. The under 400ft
> requirement seems to have largely been excised from the FCC website, even
> though I have a copy of paperwork that I agreed to back when I did my
> original drone registration which says that I agree to fly under 400 ft.
>
> But, the class at wisapalooza can be summarized in one line:
>
> "If you're using a drone for commercial purposes you need a license.
>  Inspecting a tower for a WISP you own or work for is going to almost
> certainly going to be a commercial purpose.   Go get a license, which will
> also teach you all of the rules you need to be following, which are
> different than the non-commercial rules."
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Hobbyists do not get waivers. Commercial gets waivers.
>>
>> Hobbyists call the Tower.
>> Commercial just flies - with the waiver.
>>
>> Waivers are going away in favor of the instant authorization system
>> LAANC.
>>
>> Clearly we need a session on drones at wispapalooza.
>>
>> > On Apr 30, 2018, at 18:16, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 5 miles around an airport they certainly are.   And completely
>> prohibited without a waver..
>> >
>> >> On 04/30/2018 08:19 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> >> Actually hobbyists are not limited to how high they can fly.
>> >>> On Apr 30, 2018, at 11:11, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:
>> >>> From my understanding so far, while the spirit of what you're saying
>> is true, it is more complicated than that.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you're flying as a hobbyist within 5 miles of any airport,
>> helipad, etc. (towered or not)  you need a FAA waiver.  In addition, you're
>> limited to 400ft, can't fly over certain areas, etc.   One really should
>> read up on and follow the rules, as they're not just there to irritate
>> drone users.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have a commercial license then where you can fly is based on
>> the actual airspace classification instead of the five mile limit.  Much of
>> the knowledge needed for the test revolves around understanding how to know
>> where it is safe and legal to fly based on charts and observation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 8:37 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:
>> i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>    Also be aware that if you are within five miles of a towered
>> >>>    airport you
>> >>>    need FAA wavers for flight in that area.   I talked to a
>> >>>    controller the
>> >>>    other day and he was not kidding in any way, dead serious about
>> >>>    prosecuting violators to the same level as they go after laser
>> >>>    flashers.
>> >>>       Seems the FAA is on edge about the first aircraft to be brought
>> >>>    down
>> >>>    by a drone.   I thought it was a small probability but the FAA
>> >>>    seems to
>> >>>    think otherwise..
>> >>>
>> >>>    On 4/30/18 7:17 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>> >>>    > For those of you considering using a Drone for commercial
>> >>>    purposes, be
>> >>>    > aware you probably need a commercial drone license.  Like many
>> >>>    other
>> >>>    > things, you probably will never get caught if the flight is for
>> >>>    internal
>> >>>    > use, but the requirement still exists.
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    > I'm currently slowly working on getting mine for various
>> >>>    reasons.  Have
>> >>>    > been enjoying learning a bit more about our aeronautics system
>> >>>    in the
>> >>>    > USA.  So far it doesn't seem like it's that difficult.
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 7:13 AM Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com
>> >>>    <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>
>> >>>    > <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>>>
>> wrote:
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >     We are in the market for one now.
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >     I was looking at the welds and mounting of that ring to hold
>> all
>> >>>    >     that gear. I like overkill for structural integrity. I would
>> >>>    have more
>> >>>    >     larger feet bolted to the tank on all angles.
>> >>>    >     Just thinking about my poor tower guys cursing me after they
>> >>>    >     discover what they are hooked on to.
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >     On 04/30/2018 12:14 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> >>>    >>     my contractor shot some drone pics on a site. other than
>> >>>    the uber
>> >>>    >>     sloppy cable this doesnt look as terrible as it is. will
>> >>>    rebuild
>> >>>    >>     it, but the drone footage and pics is crazy useful, the
>> >>>    external
>> >>>    >>     perspective really helps getting an overall. i highly
>> recommend
>> >>>    >>     getting drone shots
>> >>>    >
>> >>>    >     --
>> >>>    >
>> >>>
>>
>
>
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