Mark, I totally agree.  I do have it networked but only I can make the changes. 
 I see it still working for us for a while but do not get me wrong, I would 
like actual software.  I think I might do a demo of patchmanager and check it 
out.  But in all honesty I do not think it takes me more time to do it this 
way, and if I can save $6k a year for the last 6 years, that is not to bad.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 1:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Didn't Donny Smith have a hosted offering in this arena?

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I’ll let Sterling learn it and then hopefully he can teach me...

From: Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Sterling,
                The QGIS software is well suited for what you want and you can 
spin up an instance of PostgreSQL/PostGIS database for all the data and have 
the mapping interface directly to the database and without too much other work 
the mapping can be web enabled such that the data is accessible on other 
devices. I would be willing to help you set something like this up. It’s not 
too bad to do if someone already have a Google Earth file and/or spreadsheet 
established for their existing information. That can be imported and used to 
start the whole system. Software cost is nil, time is your other investment and 
paying me if you want some help in that regard. If you already have someone who 
is good with relational databases then your learning curve is not as steep.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com<http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com<http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Sounds interesting.

What I really want, if it exists, is a full layer system.

Such that I can enter my GIS info for conduit and conduit capacity and used 
capacity on the physical level, then the fiber type/count in each section by 
geo on top of that, then the splice points/case map and power readings on top 
of that.

Then the network layer on top of that with all the switch connections and 
capacity, then the layer 3 on top of that with current routing info.

Too much to ask for, but it would be awesome to say give me the details between 
point A and B and explode the view open to all layers to review things at any 
level.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Dennis Burgess
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

You can use TowerCoverage.com to map your fiber as well as use our “End User 
Submission” system to match potential users to the fiber mapping.



Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/>
Create Wireless Coverage’s with 
www.towercoverage.com<http://www.towercoverage.com>

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Paul 
Stewart
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 6:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

We utilize Patch Manager - https://patchmanager.com

It started as a great way to DCIM – data center racks across many locations etc 
but with their GIS mapping add-on and other features we’re looking to utilize 
it for fiber builds and should work pretty nicely ….

Paul


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Brian 
Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com<mailto:i...@wirelessmapping.com>>
Reply-To: <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, June 1, 2018 at 10:46 PM
To: <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

Yes QGIS is a great program and since it is open source you will find a lot of 
support and how to articles. Not as simple as Google Earth Pro but it has a lot 
more power. A real professional GIS platform. The key to its flexibility are 
the plugins you can download. Plan on spending some time reading through each 
of those descriptions to see if there are features you want. It certainly has a 
learning curve as does any mapping program. On the higher level you can 
actually connect to most database platforms so if you plan on managing your 
plant with more than spreadsheets you can keep both the mapping and database 
tied together as one.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com<http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com<http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

QGIS is very useful and open source (as in free).

Nothing specific for fiber mapping in it but it could pretty easily be used for 
it if I was ambitious enough to put all the info in.

Mark

On Jun 1, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

For basic needs, the advantage of doing mapping using Google Earth Pro is that 
most "serious" GIS packages support import and export to/from the XML format 
Google Earth uses. A line on the map on Google Earth or a multi-segmented line 
is just a collection of vector placemarks in a XML file with lat/long 
coordinates, with metadata describing the thickness of the line, the color of 
the line, how many intermediate points are on the line, and so forth.

The best organizational advice I can give is to use folders and subfolders in 
Google Earth Pro appropriately to sort projects, so that you don't end up with 
a single folder that contains 500 unnamed lines. Might look fine when viewed on 
a map but can become an organization nightmare.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
<c...@infowest.com<mailto:c...@infowest.com>> wrote:
Last topic I see on this was from 2014. So maybe it’s time to review and ask 
again? What are you guys using for fiber mapping, now in 2018?

In 2014 I read:
Craig was doing google earth and excel sheets.
Chuck Hogg was using Manifold (kinda), and some Google Maps Engine.
Mike H was using ArcMap for his clients.
A few other google sheets.

What’s changed, what’s new, what’re you using today? Same as before?  Something 
different? Why?

-c


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