Hi Flo, Thank you so much for your comprehensive clarification. I concur with you per your elaborate explanation which is actually convincing.
At this point, I think "Wiki Africa" is long overdue!!! Regards, Isaac. On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Florence Devouard <[email protected]> wrote: > Being bold here... > > > Africa Centre tried vaguely to claim intellectual property rights over the > term when Isla stopped working there. It does not really make sense as > > 1) the first one to use the term (and who made the logo I think) was > Iolanda back in 2006. And back then, her project was a "lettera27 > Foundation project run in collaboration with Wikimedia Italia". > > 2), The Africa Centre first got involved in a WikiAfrica project in ... > 2011, with Isla. > > So from an anteriority perspective... their claim can simply not make it. > > > 3) Several projects which run under that banner never involved Africa > Centre. For example WikiFundi was never related to them. And has been > clearly called a WikiAfrica project since its inception. > > > So if they felt they had a ground... they would complain. Which they do > not. I am not aware they object to anything at the moment. > > > Actually, Africa Center considered making a grant request to WMF a few > months ago. I think for an education project. But I did not see any project > grant from them the last two sessions, so I guess they finally decided > otherwise. > > I think... it is normal that Africa Centre use its legacy and show what > they have done in the past. I do not think they have run ANY WikiAfrica > project since Isla left. At least, I am not aware of any and there is > nothing new on their website. But, what was done under Africe Centre banner > is part of their legacy. And that's a non profit organization that needs to > show what it has done to get funding for other projects. So WikiAfrica is > one of their programmes.. > > ------- > > I would not say WikiAfrica is a program. That's a set of initiatives led > in the wiki world, to improve production and availability of free knowledge > about Africa and Africa participation. In my view, that's a UserGroup. And > we probably should create an official one at some point. But that's the > concept. > > I think it is complementary to what the chapters and usergroup do in the > sense that it is cross-countries. > For example, a few days ago, some people decided to kick start a > "education-focused > User Group". There are education programmes in every chapter basically... > the User Group will just be a "transversal" thing. > There is also a WikiWomen UserGroup (https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/WikiWomen%27s_User_Group). And there are projects women related in > many chapters as well. > > Who owns WikiAfrica ? Well, no one. Maybe we should ask for a trademark... > but really... I am not sure why we should bother. > > If one of you guys want to start a WikiAfrica project (the missing > tile...), just move on and do it. But if the project is going to be run in > only ONE country, it is probably better to do it within your country > UserGroup or Chapter. If the project is cross-country... WikiAfrica makes > sense. > > > (if needed, I am sure Isla or I can have other ideas for that nemissingw > tile... we can also make an entire NEW ROW ! Trust that part) > > ------- > > To go back to the Africa Center question... I see no problem for them to > run projects under the WikiAfrica banner... > * as long as they do not claim they own the whole stuff... > * as long as they do not claim they managed all the WikiAfrica projects... > * as long as they do not prevent others to run projects under this > banner... > * as long as the projects are within values and rules consistant to what > wikimedians would consider the "right thing" (such as free licence outcome > etc.) > > If they start a new project within this framework... that can be the > missing tile ;) > > > The last projects we run, we did so with other hosts and partners > (Wikimedia CH, Ynternet.org and Goethe Institute in particular). We may run > future ones under the newborn Wiki in Africa association. We may also run > them with the Kiwix association. Who knows !!!! > > We thought important to have a place to showcase those projects as a > whole. We also thought important to acknowledge the role each of those > hosts and partners have played. Africa Centre certainly played an important > part there and it is important that its role and involvement be recognised. > But it is one amongst others. As displayed here : > http://www.wikiafrica.org/category/wikiafrica-is-hosted-and-supported-by/ > > > Flo > > Le 09/06/2017 à 13:23, Isaac Olatunde a écrit : > > Thank you, Isla. > > My understanding of your comment is that "Wiki Africa" is an intellectual > property of Flo, Lopenza and you and Africa Center do not have any control > over it. Correct? Per the claim here, <http://www.africacentre.net/> do > you think Africa Center is mistaken? or they are in fact, correct (i.e it's > their program, they owns it? > > Let me know if you wish to discuss off-list. > > Regards, > > Isaac > > > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> It is on a wordpress site is there a problem with it Rexford? >> >> Excuse the brevity, sent from my iPhone. >> >> On 08 Jun 2017, at 22:32, Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Is there any chance the website could use a WordPress theme instead of >> this custom made one? >> >> Something similar along the lines of what was used for the >> wikilovesafrica website? >> >> rexford >> >> On Thursday, June 8, 2017, Isla Haddow Flood <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> After a lot of time and effort, we are VERY pleased to announce the >>> launch for the WikiAfrica.org website. www.wikiafrica.org >>> >>> The website has been completely revamped in order to give due credit to >>> all the members of the moment - including sponsors, hosts and, of course, >>> to showcase the projects. Please feel free to look through the website and >>> suggest changes or where you feel more information could be added. At the >>> moment, the information is very sparse and is designed to lead people to >>> investigate the projects in more depth via their own websites, or to get >>> involved with the existing wikimedia chapters and affiliates. >>> >>> We look forward to your feedback, >>> >>> Isla and Florence >>> >>> >>> *Isla Haddow-Flood* >>> Co-project Manager >>> Username: Islahaddow >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> African-Wikimedians mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> African-Wikimedians mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing > [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > > >
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