I mean "Wiki Africa User Group" is long overdue. Regards,
Isaac On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Isaac Olatunde <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Flo, > > Thank you so much for your comprehensive clarification. I concur with you > per your elaborate explanation which is actually convincing. > > At this point, I think "Wiki Africa" is long overdue!!! > > Regards, > > Isaac. > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Florence Devouard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Being bold here... >> >> >> Africa Centre tried vaguely to claim intellectual property rights over >> the term when Isla stopped working there. It does not really make sense as >> >> 1) the first one to use the term (and who made the logo I think) was >> Iolanda back in 2006. And back then, her project was a "lettera27 >> Foundation project run in collaboration with Wikimedia Italia". >> >> 2), The Africa Centre first got involved in a WikiAfrica project in ... >> 2011, with Isla. >> >> So from an anteriority perspective... their claim can simply not make it. >> >> >> 3) Several projects which run under that banner never involved Africa >> Centre. For example WikiFundi was never related to them. And has been >> clearly called a WikiAfrica project since its inception. >> >> >> So if they felt they had a ground... they would complain. Which they do >> not. I am not aware they object to anything at the moment. >> >> >> Actually, Africa Center considered making a grant request to WMF a few >> months ago. I think for an education project. But I did not see any project >> grant from them the last two sessions, so I guess they finally decided >> otherwise. >> >> I think... it is normal that Africa Centre use its legacy and show what >> they have done in the past. I do not think they have run ANY WikiAfrica >> project since Isla left. At least, I am not aware of any and there is >> nothing new on their website. But, what was done under Africe Centre banner >> is part of their legacy. And that's a non profit organization that needs to >> show what it has done to get funding for other projects. So WikiAfrica is >> one of their programmes.. >> >> ------- >> >> I would not say WikiAfrica is a program. That's a set of initiatives led >> in the wiki world, to improve production and availability of free knowledge >> about Africa and Africa participation. In my view, that's a UserGroup. And >> we probably should create an official one at some point. But that's the >> concept. >> >> I think it is complementary to what the chapters and usergroup do in the >> sense that it is cross-countries. >> For example, a few days ago, some people decided to kick start a >> "education-focused >> User Group". There are education programmes in every chapter basically... >> the User Group will just be a "transversal" thing. >> There is also a WikiWomen UserGroup (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi >> ki/WikiWomen%27s_User_Group). And there are projects women related in >> many chapters as well. >> >> Who owns WikiAfrica ? Well, no one. Maybe we should ask for a >> trademark... but really... I am not sure why we should bother. >> >> If one of you guys want to start a WikiAfrica project (the missing >> tile...), just move on and do it. But if the project is going to be run in >> only ONE country, it is probably better to do it within your country >> UserGroup or Chapter. If the project is cross-country... WikiAfrica makes >> sense. >> >> >> (if needed, I am sure Isla or I can have other ideas for that nemissingw >> tile... we can also make an entire NEW ROW ! Trust that part) >> >> ------- >> >> To go back to the Africa Center question... I see no problem for them to >> run projects under the WikiAfrica banner... >> * as long as they do not claim they own the whole stuff... >> * as long as they do not claim they managed all the WikiAfrica >> projects... >> * as long as they do not prevent others to run projects under this >> banner... >> * as long as the projects are within values and rules consistant to what >> wikimedians would consider the "right thing" (such as free licence outcome >> etc.) >> >> If they start a new project within this framework... that can be the >> missing tile ;) >> >> >> The last projects we run, we did so with other hosts and partners >> (Wikimedia CH, Ynternet.org and Goethe Institute in particular). We may run >> future ones under the newborn Wiki in Africa association. We may also run >> them with the Kiwix association. Who knows !!!! >> >> We thought important to have a place to showcase those projects as a >> whole. We also thought important to acknowledge the role each of those >> hosts and partners have played. Africa Centre certainly played an important >> part there and it is important that its role and involvement be recognised. >> But it is one amongst others. As displayed here : >> http://www.wikiafrica.org/category/wikiafrica-is-hosted-and-supported-by/ >> >> >> Flo >> >> Le 09/06/2017 à 13:23, Isaac Olatunde a écrit : >> >> Thank you, Isla. >> >> My understanding of your comment is that "Wiki Africa" is an intellectual >> property of Flo, Lopenza and you and Africa Center do not have any control >> over it. Correct? Per the claim here, <http://www.africacentre.net/> do >> you think Africa Center is mistaken? or they are in fact, correct (i.e it's >> their program, they owns it? >> >> Let me know if you wish to discuss off-list. >> >> Regards, >> >> Isaac >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It is on a wordpress site is there a problem with it Rexford? >>> >>> Excuse the brevity, sent from my iPhone. >>> >>> On 08 Jun 2017, at 22:32, Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Is there any chance the website could use a WordPress theme instead of >>> this custom made one? >>> >>> Something similar along the lines of what was used for the >>> wikilovesafrica website? >>> >>> rexford >>> >>> On Thursday, June 8, 2017, Isla Haddow Flood <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> After a lot of time and effort, we are VERY pleased to announce the >>>> launch for the WikiAfrica.org website. www.wikiafrica.org >>>> >>>> The website has been completely revamped in order to give due credit to >>>> all the members of the moment - including sponsors, hosts and, of course, >>>> to showcase the projects. Please feel free to look through the website and >>>> suggest changes or where you feel more information could be added. At the >>>> moment, the information is very sparse and is designed to lead people to >>>> investigate the projects in more depth via their own websites, or to get >>>> involved with the existing wikimedia chapters and affiliates. >>>> >>>> We look forward to your feedback, >>>> >>>> Isla and Florence >>>> >>>> >>>> *Isla Haddow-Flood* >>>> Co-project Manager >>>> Username: Islahaddow >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> African-Wikimedians mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> African-Wikimedians mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> African-Wikimedians mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >> >> >> >
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