Operators are informed, if you speak about “engineers”, the problem is to 
inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country 
(financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.).

 

I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago.


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <[email protected]>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <[email protected]>
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <[email protected]>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people 
moving to IPv6

 

Dear All,

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each 
country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it 
will not be possible to use it optimally.
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think 
that all the members are aware of the situation.

Best regard,
 Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
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De: "Mukom Akong T." <[email protected]>
À: "IPv6 in Africa" <[email protected]>
Envoyé: Jeudi 6 Décembre 2018 06:41:29
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people 
moving to IPv6
 


>
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If 
> something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not 
> think consumer education about IP is a good idea.



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But 
they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or 
cheaper) with v6.


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of 
national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. 
Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today.



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't 
> get upgrades.
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts.


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be 
"sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which 
further cripples IPv6 deployment.

>
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. 
> CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests 
> complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 
> 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, 
> "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business 
> opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs 
> could outsource their testing and certification.


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) 
and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government 
implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should 
reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness 
Self Assessment at  

ENGLISH → https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
FRENCH →  https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate – and I still am – and I’ve actively 
> deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with 
> multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a 
> result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive – 
> it’s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges 
> and problems with it – instead of sprouting off that everyone should just 
> move to it.   Let’s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but 
> it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with 
> those – we will see deployment continue to stutter


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" 
where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a 
fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on 
an on about problems they've only heard about.


>
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make 
> progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
>


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have 
encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up 
to a webinar or discussion at AIS.


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone 
somewhere has solved those problems.


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 
> provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of 
> hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to 
> draw from:
>
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's 
> normal.
>
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
>
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our 
deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising 
how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only 
do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to 
implement them in an IPAM.  For those interested, a video of a highly attended 
and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation 
in an IPAM ---- no maths!


>
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month 
that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and 
coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get 
stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it 
takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a 
request at  


bit.ly/6deployEN   (english)
bit.ly/6deployFR    (french)

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what 
actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it 
and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible 
equipment is not in the top 5. 
We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers 
aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 
months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large 
corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :(
 
If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country 
 
- 5% teaching, 95% DOing
- using our Prototype → Validate → Develop → Deploy framework
- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
 
you can apply at:  https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en (or 
https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
 
And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, 
take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at  
https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en  (or 
https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)

The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
 
Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT

-- 

Mukom Akong T.

LinkedIn:Mukom  |  twitter: @perfexcellent  

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