PS: I use "singularity" in its vernacular, not formal meaning since as Matt
has quite adequately pointed out, that word doesn't really belong physics.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 1:21 PM James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 12:32 PM Stanley Nilsen <senil...@ghvalley.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 2/22/20 1:22 AM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>   I recommend looking up the "orthogonality thesis" and doing some
>> reading thereon.  Morality, altruism, "human values," etc. are distinct
>> from intellectual capacity, and must be *intentionally *incorporated
>> into AGI if you want a complete, healthy artificial personality.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> I don't think the orthogonality thesis is relevant.  It talks about any
>> combination of goals and intelligence which is not what the "General" part
>> of AGI is about.
>>
>
> Be careful about "generality".  According to what might be thought of as
> the Cartesian paradigm of "generality", there is a very clear division
> between subject and object, hence AIXI is it and the orthogonality thesis
> is a consequence of unifying sequential decision theory with Solomonoff
> induction -- but leaving SDT's utility function open.
>
> But even AIXI's author has written a paper titled "A Complete Theory of
> Everything Will Be Subjective <https://arxiv.org/abs/0912.5434>".
>
> My own take on this is that the orthogonality thesis is wrong, but only
> once we dispense with the mechanistic view of spacetime implied by the
> Cartesian divide.  Dispensing with that is beyond the capacity of those of
> the tech-singularity and, I strongly suspect, beyond any mechanistic
> implementation of AI (ie:  AI's not incorporating _some_ interpretation of
> QM's uncertainty -- although I'm not prepared to say which).  Hell, it's
> beyond the capacity of the vast majority of people nowadays as the vast
> majority are de facto of the tech-singularity.
>

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