On Sunday, August 13, 2023, at 4:29 AM, immortal.discoveries wrote: > However. We already know machines are machines, no matter the machine. There > is nothing to even chat about. > Also I know I said we are machines hence we really don't need to discuss a proof for life why it should be. But of course the way we work it seems humans want a immortality, and hence we are discussing if, how, why immortality, how it would happen for humans, and other machines in the future.
BTW now I'm thinking that last thing I was going to throw out at end of my last reply, might be actually the answer. Need time to think about it. Say if there is many clones of a system in the future homeworld, with many copies of a given set of memories I mean, then each system or agent need sot try to not let themselves die....they can repair but don't need to upgrade anymore and so they might not need to make a clone and upload their memories to the better machine unity system, they might just repair now simply. If this is the end of the future, the way it ill look and be and stay and live and work, then they might the AIs conclude humans, that want to stay immortal as themselves, and not have an upload take on their next life, might deserve the same as the overlord AI massive systems like to be, nd so they would see us as themselves in their shoes..........Again I have to seriously think this over, it is very complex and futuristic assumptions about almost a quasi-K-Q topic that might not even exist. On Sunday, August 13, 2023, at 9:26 PM, John Rose wrote: > A clone would have a different K complexity than you therefore it's not you. > If the clone was a fully you it would need to contain universal circumstances > which it does not since IMO the K explodes therefore it's inconsistent thus > invalidating certain perspectives. Uniqueness is in the eye of the perceiver. Not if both in the computer are bit by bit same in both memory, and ran the same way, bit by bit. Of course you need the computer not to error, that is very possible to contain errors. But even if get a few errors, one can still say in theory......in theory....if there was no errors.....also we can compare the last 2 pictures from both sim life games to make sure they reached the same outcome lol, instead of all the life of both. ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T772759d8ceb4b92c-M1a698d7fe58caeed35696f14 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
