On Wednesday, August 16, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 7:44 AM John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote:
>> I suspect human K complexity is larger than most people realize.
> 
> It's about 10^9 bits of long term memory (based on recall tests for words and 
> images) and 10^8 to 10^9 bits in our DNA. The compressed size of human genome 
> is 5 x 10^9 bits, but only 8% is functional and the rest is not easily 
> compressed because it accumulates random mutations that don't get removed by 
> natural selection. The coding parts are more repetitive. Evolution can only 
> add 1 bit of information per population doubling generation.

Yes, as an estimate of K. But, for example, I can estimate the distance to a 
particular star by evaluating its brightness and be off by 1000x. The real K 
complexity of the distance might be quite large. If you look at an electrical 
circuit and say it’s 5V that’s just a convenient average estimate. The exact 
voltage could be trillions of bits as in 4.999981347534783487…  And that would 
have to be sampled over a period of time since it would be changing rapidly. 
Also, the sampling itself effects the value at the quantum level. The K of a 
sample typically isn’t the K of a physical object it’s an estimate from a 
finite string representation of the object, or a virtualized perceptual 
instance. The specific human's K IS and the perception's K- estimate of the 
human is OUGHT. Throwing stuff away is lossy.

So, the real K complexity of a human being would be quite large. The size would 
less than or equal to the K of the Universe. 

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