Aaron,
It doesn't decide what to do with the regularities it finds. The regularities are in fact invariant behaviors. The behaviors are obtained by removing all entropy, that is, all uncertainties, from the information it currently posesses. They are said to be invariant because they are the same no matter which of the uncertainties (within the given information) actually happens. In other words, they are actions that guarantee survival, and they directly activate the actuators. The only drive is survival, but not even that is intended. It just happens, because brained individuals survive better than non-brained ones. This is a new notion, you will not find it in any book. You can read a short article <http://www.scicontrols.com/SchroedingerCat.htm> I wrote to explain these things better. Sergio From: Aaron Hosford [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:00 AM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Hugo de Garis on the Singhilarity Institute and the hopelessness of Friendly AI ... Humans have a built in animal drive system (emotion & the pleasure/pain dichotomy), which works in tandem with the goal-less observation system tha constitutes our intelligence. Without drive to give direction and precedence to choices of behavior, I don't imagine the intelligence we exhibit would actually do anything. We would be difficult to control in the way a large boulder is difficult to control -- we would be inert. How does the AGI machine you propose decide what to do with the regularities it finds in the incoming sensory data? Or is it also inert? On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Sergio Pissanetzky <[email protected]> wrote: Matt, Understood. I suggest an entropy approach, based on the observation that entropy reduction causes self-organization and the formation of patterns. To my knowledge, this has never been tried before, except by me. I have reason to believe that our brains work that way. The AGI machine I propose consists of an entropy processor with memory, input and output, that's all. No computer, no program, except that almost certainly the entropy processor will be a computer programmed for that task. Completely problem-independent and data-agnostic. Everything else goes in as data. It works, within my limitations, and I am trying to build a larger one with an FPGA. One major difference with current AGI attempts, is that my AGI can not be controlled. Your only interaction with it is to give it information. You can see considerable similarities with humans. Sergio -----Original Message----- From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:17 AM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Hugo de Garis on the Singhilarity Institute and the hopelessness of Friendly AI ... On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Sergio Pissanetzky <[email protected]> wrote: > No it's not. Because Watson and its program have been developed by > humans. I meant Google, as a machine, without any humans writing a > program and telling it how to learn to play chess. So I guess what you want is a machine where you can describe the rules of chess or any other game using English words, and it will learn to play the game. That's a language modeling problem. It's one of the hard problems of AI that we haven't solved yet, along with vision, hearing, robotics, music, art, humor, and some others. I have no reason to believe that these problems won't be solved eventually. It will probably require a lot of computing power and a lot of human effort in programming and training. What do you suggest? -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/18883996-f0d58d57 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/? <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> & d2 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com <http://www.listbox.com/> ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23050605-bcb45fb4 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/? <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> & Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com <http://www.listbox.com/> AGI | <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/18883996-f0d58d57> | <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; ad2> Modify Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
