Ah, thank you, the actual AGI-12 list looks much more interesting! :) On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Russell, > > The link Matt provided was not for the AGI-12 conference on AGI > research, but rather for another smaller conference operated by > Oxford's Future of Humanity Institute, AGI-Impacts, which is > co-located with AGI-12 and deals with the potential future > implications of AGI... > > If you look at the page for the actual AGI conference, > > http://agi-conference.org/2012/schedule/ > > you will find a rather different set of papers ;p > > ben > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Russell Wallace > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Matt, thanks for the report. I had not been particularly optimistic >> about rate of progress in AGI, but even my pessimistic self had not >> expected the field to turn into toxic garbage at the rate at which it >> has done. >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You can find the papers here. >>>> http://www.mindmakers.org/projects/agiconf-2012/wiki/Schedule >>> >>> I read the extended abstracts here: >>> http://www.winterintelligence.org/agi-impacts-extended-abstracts/ >>> >>> Summary: out of 12 papers, 0 report advances toward AGI. >>> >>> The one paper that reports any experimental results whatsoever is the >>> one by Stuart Armstrong: Predicting AI… or failing to. >>> The main result (from reading the whole paper) is that the >>> distribution of predictions of time to AI has not changed since the >>> 1950's, even though those predictions are known to be wrong. >>> >>> Nine of the papers are on the general theme of safety, ethics, or >>> friendliness of self improving AI. There seems to be a general belief >>> that if we can produce a smarter than human AI, then so could it, only >>> faster. So we had better get its goal system right. But there is only >>> one problem. It is all of humanity, not a single human, that produced >>> this super-human AI. So the threshold for self improvement hasn't been >>> crossed yet. If you want an example of recursive self improvement, >>> then look at civilization making a better version of civilization, as >>> measured by economic growth and increased life expectancy. That is >>> happening in spite of the lack of any obvious goal system that needs >>> to be programmed. >>> >>> To see why creating a single super-human AI is not recursive self >>> improvement, ask yourself if you could have done it 100 years ago, >>> knowing what you know now. Could you have done it if you were the only >>> living person on the planet? If not, then you had help. >>> >>> >>> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> AGI >>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/1658954-f53d1a3f >>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> AGI >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279 >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org > > "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/1658954-f53d1a3f > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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