According to the current understanding of nearly all scientists, the diversity of real world objects are generated by physical processes, which seem well described via a combination of the Standard Model & General Relativity theory
But both of these theories are math theories, arbitrarily closely approximable via computer programs... (though to simulate the whole universe via a computer would require a very large computer program on a very large computer) So yeah... ... ben On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote: > Totally irrelevant, no, Ben? > > Are you suggesting general relativity theory can be used to generate the > endless range of diverse forms that comprise any real world class of > objects, including classes of fonts, pace Hofstadter? Why not try string > theory as well? > > (Perhaps there’s a general irrelevance theory that could explain such > points as you’re making? [image: Smile] ) > > > > *From:* Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 3:02 PM > *To:* AGI <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [agi] The Vast Field of Cultural Icons > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote: > >> John: So what are the formulaic processes for general object >> generation and recognition? >> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity_theory > > ;) > ben > > > > >> >> >> We’re making further progress IMO because we’re both looking directly at >> the problem. Ben (and Opencog) and the vast majority of AGI-ers won’t do >> that. I’m going to say more on this in a while, (including reframing the >> problem still more precisely), but in the meantime, you & others might >> care to look at a specifically algorithmic consideration of the problem (in >> a form well-set by Hofstadter): >> >> >> Is there a Universal Image >> Generator? >> >> >> https://researchspace.auckland.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/2292/3851/344cris.pdf?sequence=1 >> >> >> >> The conclusion: >> >> >> “though this is an >> abstract result, it may have import for several areas in graphics that >> deal with compressible signals. In essence, new representations and >> pattern generation algorithms will continue to be developed; there >> is no feasible “super algorithm” that is capable of all things.” >> >> Comments? >> >> >> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | >> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org > > "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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