So Ben it should be no problem for you to explain how these theories generate/ coimputer diverse fonts.
I suggest you haven’t the slightest clue – and nor would anyone else – and this is a total timewaster. The paper linked OTOH does represent an attempt to engage computationally with the problem of how algos might or might not generate diverse fonts/forms. Any comments on that? From: Ben Goertzel Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:58 PM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] The Vast Field of Cultural Icons According to the current understanding of nearly all scientists, the diversity of real world objects are generated by physical processes, which seem well described via a combination of the Standard Model & General Relativity theory But both of these theories are math theories, arbitrarily closely approximable via computer programs... (though to simulate the whole universe via a computer would require a very large computer program on a very large computer) So yeah... ... ben On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote: Totally irrelevant, no, Ben? Are you suggesting general relativity theory can be used to generate the endless range of diverse forms that comprise any real world class of objects, including classes of fonts, pace Hofstadter? Why not try string theory as well? (Perhaps there’s a general irrelevance theory that could explain such points as you’re making? ) From: Ben Goertzel Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:02 PM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] The Vast Field of Cultural Icons On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote: John: So what are the formulaic processes for general object generation and recognition? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity_theory ;) ben We’re making further progress IMO because we’re both looking directly at the problem. Ben (and Opencog) and the vast majority of AGI-ers won’t do that. I’m going to say more on this in a while, (including reframing the problem still more precisely), but in the meantime, you & others might care to look at a specifically algorithmic consideration of the problem (in a form well-set by Hofstadter): Is there a Universal Image Generator? https://researchspace.auckland.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/2292/3851/344cris.pdf?sequence=1 The conclusion: “though this is an abstract result, it may have import for several areas in graphics that deal with compressible signals. In essence, new representations and pattern generation algorithms will continue to be developed; there is no feasible “super algorithm” that is capable of all things.” Comments? AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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