Hmmm... thx for the feedback, Mike ;) In the survey paper on AGI, I definitely do emphasize the specific notion of AGI as opposed to human-level intelligence...
In the AGI history review, I was trying to summarize the history in a fair-minded way, rather than trying to impose my own perspective on it too heavy-handedly.... Maybe I went too far in that direction though.... -- Ben On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote: > You should incl.the establishment of the field of "AGI" by one Goertzel & co > c. 2005 - wh. was distinctive because it aimed much more precisely than > before at: > > "the creation of systems with GENERAL intelligence as distinct > from specialized capabilities and performance on narrowly defined tasks" > > as opposed to Minsky & MaCarthy's supervague goal of "HUMAN intelligence." > > And "AGI" has entered the currency and is now used by people as diverse as > Deutsch and Brooks. > > Unfortunately the aforesaid Goertzel seems to be reverting to supervague > "human intelligence" & undermining AGI's distinctiveness. > > -----Original Message----- From: Ben Goertzel > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:32 PM > To: AGI > Subject: [agi] Seeking constructive feedback regarding history and survey > papers on AI/AGI > > > Hi all, > > Because I'm a sucker for punishment, and also because I do value the > chunks of useful feedback that sometimes emerge amidst all the noise, > I'm posting rough drafts of a couple in-process survey papers online > and soliciting comments from list members... > > These are not original research papers, but rather papers written as > chapters for a forthcoming book, seeking to give background regarding > the AGI field... > > This one surveys the history of the AI field from antiquity to the > present day, from an AGI-oriented perspective: > > http://goertzel.org/AGI_History_early_draft.pdf > > It's mostly not original information, but has a different slant than > most histories of AI I've seen.... The timeline figures are also > available at > > http://goertzel.org/AI_timeline/assets/player/KeynoteDHTMLPlayer.html#0 > > This one attempts to give an overview of the AGI field itself, at the > present time: > > http://goertzel.org/AGI_survey_early_draft.pdf > > Comments will be valued, especially regarding > > -- important stuff that I may have inadvertently left out, that can be > inserted without making the papers copiously longer > > -- things that I have inadvertently explained in a confusing or > misleading manner (even beyond the confusingness intrinsically induced > by the subject matter ;-) > > Comments about specific portions of the paper might be easier to > incorporate into revised drafts, if you indicate exactly what text in > the paper you're referring to, either with page/section numbers or > snippets of text, etc. > > Thanks ;) > Ben > > P.S. > Comments by Mike Tintner or others about how everyone in the AGI > field is totally wrong so it's worthless to survey their worthless > work, or how the whole history of the AI field is a history of utter > failure that doesn't deserve to be chronicled, etc. etc. -- are > specifically NOT solicited. I'm looking for feedback on how to > improve the papers, while keeping their general thrust the same; not > for opinions on whether writing papers of this nature is even > worthwhile.... I am already aware of the scope of opinions opposing > the foundation of my own and others' AGI work... > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > http://goertzel.org > > "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5 > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279 > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
