Aaron, On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Aaron Hosford <[email protected]> wrote:
> They just cut the cost of patents in half (while also reducing their >> value), so it won't cost much to claim your territory. > > > Just out of curiosity, what is the cost? > As I recall, for 20 claims that includes 3 independent claims, described in <100 pages, the base fee *WAS* ~$600 (now cut in ~half). You can increase all these limits by paying various fees, e.g. $125 for each additional independent claim. The patent attached to my posting cost ~$1,000 because of its 30 total and 5 independent claims. Since this was submitted at the very end of "first to invent", Craig didn't want ANY wrinkles that might alter the filing date, so he spent another $400 on a professional draftsman, who would scrupulously adhere to patent office drafting rules. We had agreed to split the cost, so this experiment cost me ~$700. Of course you can get an old version of Visio like I did for ~$10 from eBay, ignore the complaints that it doesn't recognize Windows XP, and follow the style in the drawings attached to my initial posting on this thread, and skip the $400 expense. You should check the fees on USPTO.gov, but a filing from a "micro entity" like us will now cost ~$300. There are additional fees if/when the patent is granted. My own view is that patents are worthless unless you can afford to defend them, which can cost 6-7 figures. If you must ask about the cost of getting a patent, then you definitely can NOT afford to defend one. Hence, your business plan MUST include SOME way of gaining access to enough money to defend your turf, e.g. making a deal with the 2nd largest infringer, to sue the largest infringer, which is a fairly common practice. There are numerous other strategies, e.g. "You can have me AND my technology for a big at paycheck", which can provide considerable employment security - until they move to another technology. Steve ======================= > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Steve Richfield < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Matt, >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Steve Richfield >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> But I'm not sure what you are trying to patent. The floating point >>> >> hash probably has prior art so it is not patentable by itself. >>> > >>> > I looked but didn't find any. >>> >>> And neither will the USPTO. It's too much work. That's why you find so >>> many duplicate patents covering the same invention. When you sue >>> someone for infringing, then they will do the proper research to >>> invalidate your patent. >>> >>> >> If it >>> >> is one step in a longer process, then anyone could work around it by >>> >> substituting an integer hash, which is technically superior anyway. >>> > >>> > Its ONLY use is in two isolated dependent claims, the loss of which >>> wouldn't affect much of anything, especially since there are a couple of >>> super-broad independent claims that are at a higher level than details of >>> hashing. >>> >>> I know. "The system of the previous claim where the hash value is a >>> floating point number", etc. >>> >> >> Egad - you hacked my claims!!! Good job. >> >> Steve. >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23050605-2da819ff> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full employment. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
