Logan, There seem to be some very different issues mixed in here: 1. An anyone-readable language akin to COBOL could still demand the same precise construction of any other procedural language like C++. 2. An anyone-editable language could be a mix of a precisely constructed core and anyone-editable add-ons like subroutines. I have built tiny COBOL interpreters for several projects, to allow customization of a generic product. 3. An anyone-writable language would have to be VERY resistant to programming errors that would crash any system now known, or have a precisely constructed core that is kept out of reach. 4. An anyone-speakable language would add another layer of interpretation errors, and would interfere with precise construction even by those with such skills.
I'm not sure where your plan fits into this landscape - or if you see a different landscape. Can you relate our two visions together? Thanks. Steve On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Logan Streondj via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > Recently read Ben's article reacting to Elon Musk's FUD. > As you may know the mass media is certainly not on our side. > Though things are improving, such as from Terminator to Transcendence. > In the recent Captain America movie there was a nazi scientist AGI... > > Anyways so I decided to check the AGI mailing lists, noticed Jim's > been talking about making a naturalistic programming language. > Don't know if you remember but I've been working on human speakable > programming language for several years now. Actually ever since I > found out about Ben Goertzel attempting to use Lojban for Novamente. > > I've come to realize that my project SPEL (Speakable Programming for > Every Langauge) is also useful as a form of very precise automated > translation, usable for businesses, policy makers, and private chat. > It would be in competition with current Controlled Natural Languages. > Since Mwak (current name of core language) uses features which are > commonly found in all the worlds major languages, it is easy to use as > a pivot between them. > > I currently have a javascript implementation to allow for people to do > translations in their browsers, it will be usable even offline. > Thus it will allow greater privacy and accuracy than google translate, > though admitedly it would require much more training/learning, > since the vocabulary is limited and grammar is strict. > > Anyways so how can this help with making AGI more globally acceptable? > Because people that write in mwak or a variant, will be feeding the > AGI knowledge databases, thus will be contributing to the AGI project. > People feel attached, and proud of things they have contributed to. > Similar to wikipedia, though a contribution in one langauge, is > instantly available in all supported langauges. > > In this way as Steve Richfield was saying we'd need billions or > trillions of dollars invested to garner enough man hours of labour. We > can crowd-source the developers, since anyone that learns a mwak > variant would be able to with minimal additional effort learn to > program with their mwak variant, and contribute to the source base. > No longer will programming be something for a mystical elite, > but it will be accessible even to the african farmer, > that can put together a few sentences in swahili, > on their smart phone or other mobile device. > > Only through involving the masses can we gain their acceptance, > I believe this is certainly one way of doing so. > In any case, I understand the death threats and such, > so I'm making provisions, and taking precautions, > since I want to live a long and healthy life. > > Ben, our leader, and public face, > is most brave for putting himself out there. > Though ya, consider getting a vest, > at least for those funny gut feeling events. > We need you. > > Thanks :-) > -- > Logan Streondj > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full employment. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
