Steve “Without these, Colin approach seems to be doomed.”
A good point that's why we need to introduce the intermediate step (2) and we can have everything under one roof. 1) Computer-based AGI (C-AGI) - digital computers are excellent tools, however compared to the real brain they provide only a “reduced model of computation” 2) Hybrid -based AGI (H-AGI) to integrate wet lab research, current AGI efforts, build a "full model of computation" that can be reshaped and provide more tips how to build a more synthetic AGI . This intermediary step can bring funding from all brain initiatives and have huge impact on health/medicine and therapy. 3) Non-computer-based AGI (NC-AGI) , the final step *Why a board of directors?* One may pursue two different models: *(A)Academic model: * Defending the value of information written in the textbooks is a responsibility of any academic scholar, so changing/ challenging anything becomes extremely difficult – see the initial acceptance of Deep Learning models ten years ago *(B)Business model: * works in many cases better than the academic model in shaping new things, see Tesla, Edison,Ford, Marconi and more recently Craig Venter. Fast gains are required to maintain the business model running. The board of directors should mainly take care of AGI business, marketing strategy for any attempt made in (1)(2) and (3). Step 2 can help the AGI business . Selecting the future board members is probably the most important task for IGI, Ben and many others can provide more details about how difficult is to maintain AGI business today. Chip implants, mercury colonization.... and other topics can be discussed after IGI is running We need to shape IGI based on a business model, so please feel, free to make reliable proposals for the board of directors. Dorian PS Neither Collin nor I are businessman so we do not make any attempt to be members of the board On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:36:39AM -0700, Dorian Aur wrote: > > Telmo, > > > > (i) Indeed, reverse-engineering the brain *on a digital computer is a > much > > harder problem* > > (ii) Also, consciousness (like NLP) is a particularly "hard problem" > only *if > > we like to replicate it solely on digital computers * > > you still haven't addressed the fact that consciousness is a > political issue, it's not an engineering problem. > > by NLP do you mean natural language processing? > If so, I'm not sure why you think it is relevant. > > > initially create heterogeneous teams to engineer the hybrid system using > > biological building blocks. > > > > if you are using biological building blocks, then you take the A > out of AGI. then it becomes simply a brain in a vat, or > biological cells in a vat, which can already do plenty of > things. > > > I strongly feel that this endeavor will be the fastest, less expensive > > and most effective path towards AGI and brain therapy. > > > > I guess it's the more transhuman approach, of shoving microchips > into peoples heads, and attaching them to vats of brain cells. > > anyways, I don't find it particularly useful, > we can't for instance colonize venus or mercury with biological > dependancies. maintaining even a small fridge at over 200 > degrees Celsius away from ambient is a serious energy drain. > > only thing it might be useful is for some political stuff > Earth-side: "this human had a normal brain, but got some brain > trauma, and now has been restored to beyond their previous > abilities through chip implants", much as they already do by > allowing quadraplegics to use mice and possibly keyboards. > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/17795807-366cfa2a > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
