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On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Colin Hales <[email protected]> wrote: > I put in a backorder and found out igi.org t was gone afterwards. Doh. > Does the predation have to start so soon? There's always a shark. > OK. I'll ask. May take a while. > Dorian... It's your name. Have you any alternatives if this shark turns > out to be too hungry? > Leave it there for the moment.a > :-) > colin > > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Benjamin Kapp <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The domain name owner can be contacted at the e-mail address >> [email protected]. Ask him how much he wants for the domain. >> >> We can always just grab a free domain name and change later once the >> organization gets going. >> >> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Colin Hales <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I didn't buy igi.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Benjamin Kapp <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The igi.org domain no longer seems to be offering its self for sale >>>> when I visit it. Did someone buy it already? >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Colin Hales <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Logan, >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 09:48:03AM +1000, colin hales wrote: >>>>>> > Sorry about the previous empty. Phone issue. 10 thumbs. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > My particular flavour of the non-computer approach is irrelevant. I >>>>>> am not pushing my own at all. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Robot $ and kind irrelevant. I have the math you speak of. Wrong on >>>>>> both counts. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I do not care what kind of NC-AGI arises. All I know is that NC-AGI >>>>>> important, neglected and needs a champion. >>>>>> >>>>>> okay so obviously you are the champion. >>>>>> Why is it important? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because it's never been done. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> you guys have been talking about it for a week now, >>>>>> and I still have no idea why you think it has value. >>>>>> >>>>>> like lets be honest here, anything that isn't a computer or >>>>>> technology is biology. so what you are really talking about >>>>>> (seems to me) is biological-AGI, or connecting a vat of >>>>>> brain-cells to a computer. >>>>>> this has been done, and can play simple video games. >>>>>> but so can deep neuronets on computers. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No it is not necessarily biology. H-AGI can use biological material or >>>>> make inorganic versions of the biological substrate. Mine is totally >>>>> inorganic. >>>>> >>>>> And while hooking bio material to other hardware has been done, it has >>>>> not been done by anyone headed in the direction of an AGI. Pure wet >>>>> neuroscience? Yes. Machine learning? Yes. Robot control? Yes. This >>>>> particular approach is not what I intend. Dorian may be more interested in >>>>> that. I don't want to stop anyone doing any of it just because it clashes >>>>> with my own vision of it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > So please set anything you think you know about me or my approach >>>>>> aside. You actually know almost nothing and what little that is is >>>>>> irrelevant to what is happening in this thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> okay so do you have some kind of proprietary secret approach? >>>>>> >>>>>> I was thinking you can Dorian can sign an NDA and then no one >>>>>> will ever know about anything you guys do. >>>>>> >>>>>> personally I think that there are a lot of potential ethical >>>>>> issues with using biological mediums for computation, also they >>>>>> aren't particularly scalable or portable. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I can see scalability. I can see portability. I can see generativity. >>>>> It will be clunky at first like all new ideas. It has an organic and an >>>>> inorganic aspect. All untried as H-AGI. >>>>> >>>>> Both Dorian and I have written up and published everything that is >>>>> needed to get your head round the fundamentals, which I know can be hard >>>>> to >>>>> see for those without the biophysics. We have both argued for a long time, >>>>> one way or another, that the approach is novel. The one-liner explanation: >>>>> >>>>> *H-AGI is where the brain physics essential to an AGI is identified >>>>> and included in an AGI substrate. This is achieved by actually >>>>> replicating the physics (organic/inorganic, doesn't matter) and including >>>>> that physics on the substrate then and testing its performance against >>>>> alternatives that lack that physics (i.e. that might ignore it or model >>>>> it, >>>>> replacing it with the physics of the instantiation of the model, whatever >>>>> that might be).* >>>>> >>>>> So it's rather simple. Both Dorian and I have identified candidate >>>>> 'low-hanging fruit' physics. There may be others. That physics may be the >>>>> crucial missing link that has dogged AGI for decades. If so, then all >>>>> activity that did not include that essential physics was actually destined >>>>> to underperform in mysterious ways that it is H-AGIs job to sort out. The >>>>> IGI, if it existed, would do that. >>>>> >>>>> Yes there are heaps of ethical issues with any AGI approach. The H-AGI >>>>> inorganic version will have one ethics/risk landscape, the H-AGI organic >>>>> version another. Both of these will contrast with the C-AGI risk >>>>> landscape. >>>>> In what ways? I dunno! 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