There will always be skeptics and non-believers until some degree of 
success is achieved. 
Seems that some fail to see the application of the invention. 
About the time of the earliest train, someone said you couldn't breath if 
you were going 30 mph. 
There were skeptics that thought not many would want a phone... 
Who would want to talk to someone down the road?
I'm sure someone poo pooed the idea of the Electric light... 
Edison was against AC current..  
Personal Computers ... Some genus said we would only need a few...
>From the first hand held calculator to the dual core chips of today... 
Drawing the parallel of the Model T days of Cars and appling it to the 
computers of the past and the pressent day computers.. 
The model T days of the computer has passed yet.. 
You ain't seen nothing yet...  

Yet for those that speak in this time and date after IBM and the Chess 
playing computer and algorithm. I wonder why they would have those 
beliefs. Better to move the technology onward and let the non-believers 
and skeptics poo poo the idea. I am sure there are some levels of success 
to date that hasn't been told. I am sure the AI developers want to keep 
their trade secretes to themselves. I am sure that somewhere along the 
line the genie will be let out of the AI bottle. Regretfully that is where 
the start of something big will be that will change the course of society 
as we know it today. 

Would anyone care to scenario the effect of AI on our society? 

Will AI be mankind's curse or deliverance? 

Dan Goe

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>From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A. T. Murray)
To : [email protected]
Subject : [agi] A.I. Gone A-Whitewash (Rebuttal to A.I. Gone Awry)
Date : Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:39:20 -0800 (PST)
> http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2144 is a thread at 
> the Skeptic Magazine about the new Volume 12, Issue No. 2, 2006,
> which includes a front-cover article by Peter Kassan entitled
> A.I. Gone Awry: The Futile Quest for Artificial Intelligence.
> 
> http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=37430#37430 is my
> A.I. Gone A-Whitewash (Rebuttal to A.I. Gone Awry) -- below.
> 
> This morning I chanced upon 
> http://www.sl4.org/archive/0603/14418.html 
> Kassan: A.I. Gone Awry in a forum devoted to 
> AI and the Singularity. Later in the day I stopped 
> in at a magazine store and they said that the new 
> issue would not come in until mid-April. But then I 
> remembered to check the University Book Store where I 
> had worked in the summer before I entered graduate 
> school at U Cal Berkeley: Bingo! The clerk said that 
> the new issue of The Skeptic had come in a few minutes ago. 
> 
> The "A.I. Gone Awry" article by Peter Kassan on pages 30-39 
> was very impressive but extremely disappointing. 
> Like some puff-piece websites like TheEdge.com, 
> the AI article was written entirely from the 
> point-of-view (POV) of the academic AI Establishment. 
> Sure, the article gave an exhaustive history of academic AI, 
> but it made no mention at all of the exciting progress in 
> http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/agiradar.html 
> independent AI projects -- where the race is on and 
> there is no publish-or-perish academic foot-dragging. 
> 
> Peter Kassan's article stated that there is no general 
> http://mind.sourceforge.net/theory5.html 
> theory of neuroscience -- but I beg to differ, because I 
> spent fourteen years of my collegiate youth and beyond 
> in a mighty and successful effort to formulate a 
> theory of neuroscience as a basis for True AI. 
> 
> That the article ended with three entire pages of 
> academic references was truly impressive, 
> as were Kassan's observations interspersed amid 
> the citations, but they were all non-hacker, 
> non-maverick, non-garage-tinkerer publications 
> of the glacially slow academic AI Establishment. 
> In short, the cover article was a waste of paper 
> and a waste of front-page prominence. 
> 
> You have been warned, The Skeptic Magazine. 
> Do not publish such AI Establishment puffery in futuro. 
> 
> All your front-page AI article are belong to us.
> 
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