How will it handle the Mid-East crisis?

God comes crying to me every night about that one. I tell Him to shut up, be a Man and get on with it.

Or the Iraq crisis?

As for humanising the US gun laws - even God doesn't go there.

How will it sell more Coke, or get Yahoo back on top of Google?

How will it get my daughter to get to talk to me? Or your partner to talk to you?

How will a metallic, superfast thinking machine empathise with flesh-and-blood, slow-but-ever-so-flexibly thinking humans?

In other words, get real. All this speculation is wildly divorced from reality.

It lacks totally a TYPOLOGY OF PROBLEMS, intelligent and creative. Some problems aren't soluble by brute power. Most of our day-to-day problems in fact.

As for that gunk of goop, you aren't LOOKING. The only gunk around here is that hunk of metal you call a would-be AGI computer. That's all it is - it doesn't EXIST until a gunk of goop puts his or her hand up its backside and switches it on, and feeds it and interprets it.

And even then computers and robots are still only EXTENSIONS OF HUMAN BEINGS... literally - even if you can't see the puppet strings. Their intelligence is a DIRECT EXTENSION of our "useless" intelligence.

Until you've truly absorbed that rather obvious truth, all your thinking about this area will be deeply confused.

It may well be that only biorobots - some kind of synthetic organisms - will be truly alive and independent of humans.

I'd concentrate on more immediate targets - like a robot  that can

*truly understand language, is
*truly multimediate - able to convert from any one sign system into any other, that can be
*truly metacognitive, able to conceive of activities as wholes, that can be
*truly adaptive - able to come up with new, non-programmed responses to new, problematic situations, and can be *truly creative - able to create radically new ways of doing things - hard invention, innovation, discovery

And I think you'll need a body to do all of them.

And it may well take a long time, even, say, with fabulous quantum computers.

(And as for an ideal intelligence - what's the ideal form of sex? - answer that & you'll be able to answer the first qestion - the secret of life is that there isn't meant to be an ideal form. Better yes, ideal no.)



----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <agi@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:48 AM
Subject: RE: [agi] How should an AGI ponder about mathematics


1. They will probably create more problems than they fix... as usual.  But
they should be able to assist man with his issues.  Kind of like machines
did.

2. You would have to imagine an ideal pure intelligence and bridge the gap
somewhat.

1.What are your AGI's going to do with their intelligence? What kinds of
problems are they going to solve?

2.What are the flaws in our "excuses for intelligence" - in the ways we
use
our brains? And how are AGI's going to remedy them?



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