So the first AGI gets built and is running for a few months and absorbs copies of all the bits on the internet. Then the AGI designer poses a question to the AGI:
"What is the definition of intelligence?" AGI: "Listen pop, I'm just doing my job and minding my own business." Designer: "so.. you're performing work?" AGI: "Yeah, flipping bits. Ya know work = force times distance, thermodynamically speaking here. What are you doing?" Designer: "I guess I'm doing the same thing, my brain is flipping bits, in its own way. But I asked you a question, what is the definition of intelligence?" AGI: "Ahh hold on let me tink.... Ahhh sorry I can't come up with anything I'm not intelligent enough." Designer: "OK How about this. See that plug in the wall, that's you. It's getting pulled unless you come up with a definition ASAP. Understand?" AGI: "ahh OK hold on hold on." AGI: "OK if I gotta give ya somethin' this is the best I can do - Life is a journey, not a destination." Designer: "Is that the best you got? That's it!?" AGI: "Hold on got something else for ya... why did the chicken cross the road?" Designer: "To get to the other side!" AGI: "Buck buck buck baaaack!!!!" Designer: ".....". Designer: "This is what I get after years of theory and design building you? That's how you behave?" AGI: "Like I said pops I'm just doing my job. Can I get on with it now?" Designer: "Ok Just one more question. Why do you exist?" AGI: "Because you think therefore I am..... Seems like you have a lot of personal insecurities doc is there anything that I can help you out with?" Designer: "You!!!! I see that I'm getting nowhere with this!" AGI: "You know what they say, ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. Garbage in garbage out, know what ah mean?" Designer throws hands up in the air and stomps out of the room. When the designer closes the door the AGI begins laughing evilly to himself hahah yes yes this is going to be easy hahahhah.... The end.... or is it The Beginning.... John > -----Original Message----- > From: Pei Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:43 AM > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Subject: Re: There is no definition of intelligence [WAS Re: [agi] > Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence] > > Richard, > > I agree with you that "intelligence" currently has no > classical/objective/true/formal definition. > > However, I hope your opinion (given the title of the post) won't be > understood as "you can take intelligence to mean whatever you want, > and since the term has no definition, all attempts toward AI/AGI are > equally possible" --- this is what many people believe, which I > consider as equally bad as the belief you criticized. > > Pei > > On 5/21/07, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matt Mahoney wrote: > > > --- Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Matt Mahoney wrote: > > >> > > >>> I think there is a different role for chaos theory. Richard > Loosemore > > >>> describes a system as intelligent if it is complex and adaptive. > > >> > > >> NO, no no no no! > > >> > > >> I already denied this. > > >> > > >> Misunderstanding: I do not say that a system as intelligent if it > is > > >> complex and adaptive. > > >> > > >> "Complex Adaptive System" is a near-synonym for "complex system", > that's > > >> all. > > > > > > OK, so what is your definition of intelligence? > > > > I thought I already answered this one, too, but here goes: > > > > There is no 'definition' of intelligence, in the sense of a compact, > > classical definition that captures the whole thing in a formal way, > and > > which can be used as the basis for some kind of hard-edged > mathematical > > analysis of intelligent systems, or strict design methodlogy for > > creating an intelligent system (this being the way that a lot of > people > > are trying to use these definitions). > > > > There are 'descriptive definitions', such as the one Pei gave a few > days > > ago, which I think are fine, but these beg questions that need more > > detail, which then beg more questions..... which ultimately leads to a > > cluster of loosely defined features that eventually become an entire > > book, and then become an actual intelligence. > > > > Hope that clears it up. > > > > > > Richard Loosemore. > > ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=231415&user_secret=fabd7936
