As I have said many before, to have brain-level AGI I believe you need within several orders of magnitude the representational, computational, and interconnect capability of the human mind.
If you had 1 million PC bots on the web, the representational and computational power would be there. But what sort of interconnect would you have? What is the average cable box connected computers upload bandwidth? Is it about 1MBit/sec? If so that would be a bandwidth of 1TBit/sec. But presumably only a small percent of that total 1TBit/sec could be effectively used, say 100Gbits/sec. That's way below brain level, but it is high enough to do valuable AGI research. But would even 10% of this total 1Tbit/sec bandwidth be practically available? How many messages a second can a PC upload a second at say 100K, 10K, 1K, and 128 bytes each? Does anybody know? On the net, can one bot directly talk to another bot, or does the communication have to go through some sort of server (other than those provided gratis on the web, such as DNS servers)? If two bots send messages to a third bot at the same time, does the net infrastructure hold the second of the conflicting messages until the first has been received, or what? To me the big hurdle to achieving the equivalent of SETI-at-home AGI is getting the bandwidth necessary to allow the interactive computing of large amounts of knowledge. If we could solve that problem, then it should be pretty easy to get some great tests going, such as with something like OpenCog. Ed Porter -----Original Message----- From: Bob Mottram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:26 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI research] There have been a few attempts to use the internet for data collection which might be used to build AIs, or for teaching chatbots such as jabberwacky, but you're right that as yet nobody has really made use of the internet as a basis for distributed intelligence. I think this is primarily because of the lack of good theories of how to build AIs which are suitably scalable across many machines. On 29/11/2007, John G. Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Typical networked applications running on PCs are extremely narrow function. > Yeah there has been a lot of research and code on all of this, there are > many open source tools and papers written, etc. but who has really taken the > full advantage of the available resources and capabilities? Most of the work > has been on the substrate but not on the capability of potential > applications. There are a few interesting apps like peer to peer search > engines but nothing that I know of that more than scrapes the surface of the > capabilities of those millions of networked computers. > > John > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=70593452-a62da9
