To avoid further confusion about what I propose, let me cite from
http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.semantics.pdf

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... we do not mean that a word in a natural language gets its
meaning only by its relation with other words in the language, because human
experience is not limited to a language channel, but closely related to
sensation, perception, and action (Barsalou, 1999; Harnad, 1990). However,
the general principle is still applicable here, that is, a word gets its meaning
by its experienced relations with the system's other experiential components,
which may be words, perceptive images, motor sequences, and so on. In a system
like this, the meaning of a word is much more complex than in a system
whose experience is limited to a language channel, but it does not rule out the
latter case as a possible way for words (terms, symbols) to be meaningful. For
example, a software agent can get all of its experience in this manner, and we
cannot deny that it is genuine experience.

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The definition of meaning in NARS is similar to conceptual role semantics and
semantic network (Harman, 1982; Kitchener, 1994; Quillian, 1968), where the
meaning of a concept (or word) is defined by the role it plays in a conceptual
system (or a natural language). The difference between experience-grounded
semantics and those theories are:
• In NARS, the relations among terms are not definitional or linguistic, but
experienced relations that happen in the interaction between a system and
its environment, therefore they are dynamic and subjective in nature.
• In NARS, the relations between a term and others are concretely specified
by its extension and intension, consisting of inheritance relations, whose
meaning and properties are formally specified.
• In NARS, whenever a term is used, only part of its meaning is involved.
In other words, the "current meaning" of a term is not exactly its "general
meaning" in the long run.

Pei

On Feb 16, 2008 12:32 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > PeI:> To test the power of "visual reasoning", here is a rough visual
> > > explanation on two very different ways for "symbols" to get their
> > > meaning:
> > >
> > >  http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.semantics-figure.pdf
> > >
> >
> > Wow, I have to stop talking but this is really stimulating. Your
> > paper/illustrations are v. useful as far as they go, but they are almost
> > literally the tip of the iceberg. Your Experience-Grounded Semantics
> > represents a flower/pot as a tree or net of attached symbols
> >
> > "plant - containing - blossom - round" etc
> >
> > Now can we please have the VAST attached clusters/ trees of images of
> > flowers and pots that your brain has, and uses, to understand and process
> > flowers/plants
>
> That's called a semantic network.  Words are associated with other words that
> appear near it in a large corpus of text, for example:
> http://labs.google.com/sets?hl=en&q1=flower&q2=plant&q3=pot&q4=containing&q5=blossom&btn=Large+Set
>
> I agree that non symbolic (e.g. visual) processing is important for systems
> with non-symbolic I/O.
>
>
> -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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