On Feb 3, 2008 10:22 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My argument was (at the beginning of the debate with Matt, I believe)
> that, for a variety of reasons, the first AGI will be built with
> peaceful motivations.  Seems hard to believe, but for various technical
> reasons I think we can make a very powerful case that this is exactly
> what will happen.  After that, every other AGI will be the same way
> (again, there is an argument behind that).  Furthermore, there will not
> be any "evolutionary" pressures going on, so we will not find that (say)
> the first few million AGIs are built with perfect motivations, and then
> some rogue ones start to develop.

In the context of a distributed AGI, like the one I propose at
http://www.mattmahoney.net/agi.html this scenario would require the first AGI
to take the form of a worm.  It may indeed be peaceful if it depends on human
cooperation to survive and spread, as opposed to exploiting a security flaw. 
So it seems a positive outcome depends on solving the security problem.  If a
worm is smart enough to debug software and discover vulnerabilities faster
than humans can (with millions of copies working in parallel), the problem
becomes more difficult.  (And this *is* an evolutionary process).  I guess I
don't share Richard's optimism.

I suppose a safer approach would be centralized, like most of the projects of
people on this list.  But I don't see how these systems could compete with the
vastly greater resources (human and computer) already available on the
internet.  A distributed system with, say, Novamente and Google as two of its
millions of peers is certainly going to be more intelligent than either system
alone.

You may wonder why I would design a dangerous system.  First, I am not
building it.  (I am busy with other projects).  But I believe that for
practical reasons something like this will eventually be built anyway, and we
need to study the design to make it safer.


-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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