Sorry, yes the "run" is ambiguous.
I mean that what the human mind does is *watch* continuous movies - but it
then runs/creates its own extensive movies based on its experience in
dreams - and, with some effort, replay movies in conscious imagination.
The point is: my impression is that in discussing this whole area, both in
AI, philosophy & cog sci/psych, people tend to forget that consciousness is
a continuously moving picture with the other senses continuous too, and tend
to think, even if only implicitly, in terms of stills.
Mike Tintner wrote:
Er, just to clarify. You guys have, or know of, AI systems which run
continuous movies of the world, analysing and responding to those movies
with all the relevant senses, as discussed below, and then to the world
beyond those movies, in real time (or any time, for that matter)?
I have no idea what you man by "run movies of the world" in this context.
You mean they have an internal world model?
Richard Loosemore
Mike Tintner wrote:
> You're crossing a road - you track both the oncoming car and
your body
> with all your senses at once - see a continuous moving image
of the
> car, hear the noise of the engine and tires, possibly smell
it if
> there's a smell of gasoline, have a kinaesthetic sense of
your body in
> relation to the car, including a sense of up/down, left/right
etc
*/Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
I have been working on getting exactly that sort of cognitive
system
since the mid 1980s.
I don't know: perhaps you think it is especially difficult
because you
have not done much work on it.
Conventional approaches to AI may well have trouble in this
area, but
since my approach has been directed at these kinds of issues
since the
very beginning, to me it looks relatively straightforward in
principle.
The real issues are elsewhere.
Richard Loosemore
I agree! The significant obstacles are elsewhere. The integration
of ideas and the ability to index large volumes of information so
that recognition systems can find them quickly are two problems that
I see as particularly difficult. Even if we were able to show how
to get the job done for a special case it would not necessarily
translate into a feasible and extensible general program.
Jim Bromer
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