Richard wrote: > My god, Mark: I had to listen to people having a general discussion of > "grounding" (the supposed them of that workshop) without a single person > showing the slightest sign that they had more than an amateur's perspective > on what that concept actually means.
I guess you are talking about AGi-06 While that was a successful workshop -- whose perceived success by the vast majority of participants led to the convening of the even more succesful AGI-08 -- it didn't really do a good job of sticking to the initially intended theme of symbol grounding. I agree that not much of interest about symbol grounding came out of AGI-06 ... what came out of it was more a theme of the convergence of various independently originating AGI architectures. But to me it's a good rather than bad thing when a dialogue among peers leads to unexpected conclusions and directions... >I have a right to be disgusted with > the current state of this field. The state of **achievement** in the AGI field is pretty poor to date, but it's not as though YOU have achieved anything particularly notable, either... ;-p I think there are a lot of folks in the field with a pretty deep understanding of the nature of the AGI problem. Different folks understand different aspects better, of course. There are of course also well-known researchers whose approaches I find dramatically wrong-headed... While I ... similarly to you and many others in this field that seems to be populated mainly by narcissistic egomaniacs ;-) ... tend to think I have a better understanding of AGI than other researchers, I still believe other researchers have deep insights into various aspects of AGI that I can learn something from. Building a mind is a big problem, and I think we can grapple w/ it better as a community than as individuals.... I think the NM/OpenCog design can work, but there are many details to be worked out, and I hope events like the AGI conferences can help build a community focused on working them out together ... as well as working out the details of other AGI designs at the same time ... While I do bet that NM or OpenCog will get there first, I don't mainly view this as an AGI race of one researcher against another, rather as a race by the whole AGI community to get to the goal of a beneficial AGi before someone creates a rotten AGi or something else nasty happens on the planet... -- Ben G ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=101455710-f059c4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
