How is Java is *more* clear and understandable?
The IDE is *known* to be inferior. Are you arguing otherwise.
Every modern language has garbage collection.
Java has a functional programming stance? No, it does not. Look at what
you can do in the newest version of C# much less F#. If you believe that
Java has functional programming, you don't have any clue what you are
talking about.
Java's infrastructure is *much* smaller than that of .Net and fragmented.
Everybody knows it? The way syntax is these days, everybody knows Java and
C# and VB.Net because they're basically the same language.
It is *not* any more portable for any sufficiently advanced application than
anything else.
Oh, and for your reference, the vast majority of .Net is actually open and
has been submitted to standards bodies. The problem is that Microsoft
advances it faster than the less-interested Linux people can port it so Mono
always looks seriously inferior to what's available on Windows. What's
going to be embarrassing is about three to five years down the line when
Mono kicks Java's butt *and* it's still vastly inferior to what is available
under Windows at that time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vladimir Nesov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <agi@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [agi] More Info Please
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And what is the value proposition of Java over any other language? It
has
no unique features. It's development is lagging. It's developers are
defecting (again, look at the statistics). It's fragmenting just like
Unix
so it certainly isn't as portable as claimed.
Java is clear and understandable, with clean semantics so that you can
refactor the code without breaking it and IDE knows its way around the
codebase, has garbage collection, a bit of functional programming
stance, is fast enough, has decent infrastructure and everybody knows
it. A bit verbose, but I haven't found it to be a serious problem. If
you don't need fragmented odd parts, it's sufficiently portable. If
you decide between .NET and Java, tradeoff is more subtle, as they are
essentially the same thing, except that .NET is not open and more
bloated -- which is more important for a particular project? I guess
openness outweighs is for an open-source project.
--
Vladimir Nesov
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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