Consciousness clearly requires feedback - read Hofstadter's I Am A Strange Loop (http://www.amazon.com/Am-Strange-Loop-Douglas-Hofstadter/dp/0465030793/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1212604343&sr=11-1)
Recordings of consciousness are not consciousness in the same way that a CD is not music. ----- Original Message ----- From: Panu Horsmalahti To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: **SPAM** Re: Are rocks conscious? (was RE: [agi] Did this message get completely lost?) 2008/6/4 John G. Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Actually you are on to something. Since there are patterns in the rock, molecular, granular, electronic, subatomic the rock has string of bits that represent time frame samples of consciousness recordings. So I mean if they were played with the right equipment in a certain way you might be able to extract short consciousness clip recordings. Hey wait a sec - is a string of bits that represents consciousness, conscious? Or does there have to be a victrola. Does time have to be a variable? Hm... John This is the conscious rainstorm argument, which says that if information alone can create conscious experience then it can lead to 'absurd' results, like only a tiny-tiny-ultra-tiny-tiny portion of conscious experience is created by "real" brains. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=103754539-40ed26 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com