2008/6/24 Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What makes every body in this world different is that it is to some extent, > IRREGULAR - "CRAZY." Look at those faces again - what stamps them as > different is their irregularities, the slightly off jawlines, imbalanced > eyebrows, twisted smile and the irregular combination of all those features. > And your brain is so sensitive to those differences - if you saw a human > face that was perfectly regular, you'd be upset. We crave the "individual > touch" as well as the symmetrical.
Strictly speaking, jawlines and eyebrows do not exist in these images. Your brain is taking the available data - a relatively low bandwidth signal corrupted by noise and systematic nonlinear distortion - and imposing a particular geometric interpretation onto them which allows you to assign such categories. Much of visual understanding involves bidirectional synchronization between high level interpretations and low level directly observable evidence. > Actually there is a vast and much larger world of IRREGULAR shapes, abstract > as well as real, that geometry has never heard of, and is forbidden from > dealing with - which you will find especially in the abstract arts > > (in case you need reminding: > http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=abstract+art&go=&form=QBLH&scope=images Are you claiming that these images are incapable of being described geometrically? > - like the "squarishes" of Rothko, and "rectangular-y's-sort-of" and > circularishes and not just formulaic, if sophisticated random walks aka > geometry, but truly crazy doodles aka Mike Tintner and blobby blots a la > Jackson Pollock. The abstract arts reflect real world shapes much more > accurately than geometry. Pollock's paintings contain a lot of geometry originating from physical interaction between the artist and the laws of nature. The fact that you can describe something as "blobby" suggests that it contains a particular type of geometry. A nice image: http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc17/maya12345678_bucket/pollock-7464891.jpg > But images and imagination are able to reflect the concrete reality without > abstracting (or with much less) - the irregularities of faces, the messiness > of rooms, the disorder of events that defeats and always will defeat any > attempt at comprehensive analysis. That's a bold claim. Do you have a proof ? > Imaginative systems positively glory in the individual and irregular and > BREAKING the pattern - hence rational John a while ago, missed the whole > point of music. Pattern breaking is important in many ways. What you're experiencing is a disturbance or (at the extreme) a phase transition in the normal synchronisation process which allows you to construct your perceived world. Music plays all kinds of tricks with patterns - visual arts do it too. ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=106510220-47b225 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com