Parasites are very successful at surviving but they don't have other goals. Try being parasitic *and* succeeding at goals other than survival. I think you'll find that your parasitic ways will rapidly get in the way of your other goals the second that you need help (or even non-interference) from others.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Terren Suydam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <agi@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: AGI goals (was Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment))



--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually, I *do* define good and ethics not only in
evolutionary terms but
as being driven by evolution.  Unlike most people, I
believe that ethics is
*entirely* driven by what is best evolutionarily while not
believing at all
in "red in tooth and claw".  I can give you a
reading list that shows that
the latter view is horribly outdated among people who keep
up with the
research rather than just rehashing tired old ideas.

I think it's a stretch to derive ethical ideas from what you refer to as "best evolutionarily". Parasites are pretty freaking successful, from an evolutionary point of view, but nobody would say parasitism is ethical.

Terren





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