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NLTK video ;O On 9/29/08, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > > Thanks for reply. Like so many other things, though, working out how we > understand texts is central to understanding GI - and something to be done > *now*. I've just started looking at it, but immediately I can see that what > the mind does - how it jumps around in time and space and POV and > person/subject - and flexibly applies its world/subworld models - is quite > awesome. > > I think the word/sentence focus BTW is central to cognitive science *and* > the embodied cog. sci. of Lakoff and co. as well as AI/AGI. > > But the understanding of language understanding will only really come alive > when we move the focus to passages - and how we use language to construct a) > stories b) arguments and c) scenes (descriptive passages). [I wonder > whether there are any other major categories of language]. > > It also entails a switch from just a one-sided embodied POV to a two-sided > embodied-embedded overview, looking at how language is embedded in the > world. > > To focus on sentences alone is like focussing on the odd frame in a movie. > You can't get the picture at all. > > A passage/text approach will v. quickly answer Matt's: > > "I mean that a more productive approach would be to try to understand why > the problem is so hard." > > > David: > > How does Stephen or YKY or anyone else propose to "read between the > lines"? And what are the basic "world models", "scripts", "frames" etc etc. > that you think sufficient to apply in understanding any set of texts, even a > relatively specialised set? > > (Has anyone seriously *tried* understanding passages?) > > That's a most thoughtful and germane question! The short answer is no, > we're not ready yet to even *try* to tackle understanding passages. Reaching > that goal is definitely on the roadmap though, and there's a concrete plan > to get there involving learning through vast and varied activities > experienced over the course of many years of practically continious > residence in numerous virtual worlds. The plan indeed includes the > continuous creation, variation and development of mental world-models within > an OCP-based mind. Attention allocation and many other mind dynamics > (CIMDynamics) crucial to this world-modeling faculty must be adequately > developed, tested and tuned as a pre-requisite to begin trying to understand > passages (and, also to generate and communicate imagined world-models as a > human story teller would do; a curious byproduct of an intelligent system > that can reason about potential events and scenarios!) > > NB: help is needed on the OpenCog wiki to better document many of the > concepts discussed here and elsewhere, e.g. Concretely-Implemented Mind > Dynamics (CIMDynamics) requires a MindOntology page explaining it > conceptually, in addtion to the existing nuts-and-bolts entry in the > OpenCogPrime section. > > -dave > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=114414975-3c8e69 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
