Pei Wang wrote:
Richard and Ben,
If you think I, as a Chinese, have overreacted to Mike Tintner's
writing style, and this is just a culture difference, please let me
know. In that case I'll try my best to learn his way of communication,
at least when talking to British and American people --- who knows, it
may even improve my marketing ability. ;-)
Pei
No, no: I seriously do not think you have overreacted at all.
I meant my comment half in jest: Mike has some unique abilities to rub
people up the wrong way on this list, quite separate from the fact that
he is British. The latter is an exacerbating factor, is all.
Richard Loosemore
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote:
And when a Chinese doesn't answer a question, it usually means "No" ;-)
Relatedly, I am discussing with some US gov't people a potential project
involving customizing an AI reasoning system to emulate the different
inferential judgments of people from different cultures...
ben
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Richard Loosemore <r...@lightlink.com>
wrote:
Ben Goertzel wrote:
yeah ... that's not a matter of the English language but rather a matter
of the American Way ;-p
Through working with many non-Americans I have noted that what Americans
often intend as a "playful obnoxiousness" is interpreted by non-Americans
more seriously...
Except that, in fact, Mike is not American but British.
As a result of long experience talking to Americans, I have discovered
that what British people intend as routine discussion, Americans interpret
as serious, intentional obnoxiousness. And then, what Americans (as you
say) intend as playful obnoxiousness, non-Americans interpret more
seriously.
Richard Loosemore
I think we had some mutual colleagues in the past who favored such a
style of discourse ;-)
ben
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Pei Wang <mail.peiw...@gmail.com
<mailto:mail.peiw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org
<mailto:b...@goertzel.org>> wrote:
>
> IMHO, Mike Tintner is not often rude, and is not exactly a
"troll" because I
> feel he is genuinely trying to understand the deeper issues
related to AGI,
> rather than mainly trying to stir up trouble or cause irritation
Well, I guess my English is not good enough to tell the subtle
difference in tones, but his comments often sound that "You AGIers are
so obviously wrong that I don't even bother to understand what you are
saying ... Now let me tell you ...".
I don't enjoy this tone.
Pei
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