Ian, Travis, etc. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 27 June 2010 22:21, Travis Lenting <travlent...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think crime has to be made impossible even for an enhanced humans first. > > > If our enhancement was Internet based it could be turned off if we were > about to commit a crime. You really should have said "unenhanced" humans. If > my conversation (see above) was about jihad and terrorism AI would provide a > route for the security services. I think you are muddled here. > Anyone who could suggest making crime impossible, anyone who could respond to such nonsense other than pointing out that it is nonsense, is SO far removed from reality that it is hard to imagine that they function in society. Here are some points for those who don't see this as obvious: 1. Much/most "crime" is committed by people who see little/no other "rational" choice. 2. Crime is a state of mind. Almost any act would be reasonable under SOME bizarre circumstances perceived by the perpetrator. It isn't the actions, but rather the THOUGHT that makes it a crime. 3. Courts are there to decide complex issues like necessity (e.g. self defense or defense of others), understanding (e.g. mental competence), and the myriad other issues needed to establish a particular act as a crime. 4. Crimes are defined through a legislative process, by "the best government that money can buy". This would simply consign everything (and everyone) to the wealthy people who have bought the government. Prepare for slavery. 5. Our world is already so over-constrained that it is IMPOSSIBLE to live without violating any laws. Is the proposal to make impossible anything that could conceivably be construed as a crime, or to make impossible anything that couldn't be construed as anything but a crime? Even these two extremes would have significant implementation problems. Anyway, I am sending you two back to kindergarten. Steve ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com