I vote REMIT On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:56 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > I love that this whole argument is moot: > > - The practical issue has self-ratified since the judgement, so is moot. > > - The arguments are so specific to a certain sort of ambiguity that > there's likely no applicable precedent, so are moot. > > - The judge, who would remain the judge upon remand, is no even longer a > player, so eir opinion is moot. > > - Conclusion: Moot is a lovely word: moot, moot, moot, moot, moot. > > > I hereby initiate an Agoran Decision to determine public confidence in CFJ > 3831's current judgement of FALSE, delivered by Alexis on 26 Apr 2020 > (that is, a Moot). > > Case at: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3831, also > included in full below. > > For this decision: > vote collector: Arbitor > quorum: 5 > voting method: first-past-the-post > valid options: AFFIRM, REMAND, and REMIT (PRESENT is also a valid vote, > as are conditional votes). > > > [Editorial: It's very likely that REMAND will just delay the case until > Alexis can be recused a week later.] > > Have fun mooting! > > =============================== CFJ 3831 =============================== > > Murphy published a valid Notice of Honour today. > > ========================================================================== > > Caller: Aris > > Judge: Alexis > Judgement: FALSE > > ========================================================================== > > History: > > Called by Aris: 25 Apr 2020 06:35:08 > Assigned to Alexis: 25 Apr 2020 20:05:03 > Judged FALSE by Alexis: 26 Apr 2020 18:41:54 > Motion to reconsider self-filed: 26 Apr 2020 18:41:54 > Judged FALSE by Alexis: 26 Apr 2020 18:41:54 > > ========================================================================== > > Caller's Evidence: > > On 25 Apr 2020 02:46:37 GMT Edward Murphy wrote in agora-business: > > This is a Notice of Honour: > > -1 kudo: ATMunn, randomly chosen zombie > > +1 kudo: PSS, testing the finger-pointing rules in an interesting way > > > Caller's Arguments: > > In eir purported Notice, Murphy referenced kudos. Kudos are currently > undefined. It is unclear whether the Notice specifies players who are to > gain and lose honor, as required by Rule 2510, or instead specifies > players who are to gain and lose kudos. I think it's probably clear > enough, but that's ambiguous. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Judge Alexis's Arguments: > > The requirement in Rule 2150 is, as Aris claims, to publish a notice > announcing which player gains and loses karma. The karma system is similar > to an earlier system which used kudos, and an even earlier one which used > props, so there is clearly some similarity there. > > As two hypotheticals, we can consider whether Muphy's notice would have > worked if e had specified a) some rule-defined asset/switch or b) a word > that doesn't have Agoran connotations at all. > > If Murphy's notice had specified ±1 coin, then it clearly would fail. The > notice would be specifying who gains and loses coins, something quite > well-defined, rather than karma. > > If it had instead specified ±1 XP, then I think it would also fail. It is > not clear, in the context of the current Agoran rules, what "XP" is (and > to my knowledge, it has never been defined in a way that would make it > make any sense here; if that is not the case, for the sake of this > judgment, assume that it is). But it seems to me that it would be > unreasonable to interpret "XP" as "karma" in this context. > > So the only way that Murphy's notice could succeed would be if "kudo"'s > history in some way privileged it to operate as a substitute for karma. > This might be possible if there had been a custom regarding it, or if the > use of kudos was recent history. But neither of these is the case, and the > modern playerbase cannot be expected to know the full details of Agora's > history. So I rule that this is FALSE as the notice does not clearly > specify that it is manipulating karma. > > ========================================================================== > -- >From R. Lee
