On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 15:48 -0600, Pavitra wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009 06:40:49 Alex Smith wrote:
> > The basic ideas of the proposal are to ensure that after a case is
> > resolved and finally judged, the controversy about it is
> > uncontroversially resolved, with the rules modified to ensure that
> > the same controversy does not occur again and the gamestate
> > modified to a known value (so that incorrect judgements which
> > aren't appealed nevertheless don't cause everyone to continue
> > playing on an incorrect gamestate; at the moment, this would
> > normally but not always be incidentally fixed by self-ratification,
> > but I prefer a less dubious fix).
> 
> This is obviously a scam. The judicial system has recently been 
> subjected to rampant corruption; giving it actual power over the 
> gamestate would be catastrophic.
It has no direct power over the gamestate, just forces judges to submit
proposals. So its only benefit to a scam would be to make it easier for
judges to disguise scammy proposals as something legitimate; all the
proposals would still be /voted/ on in the normal manner.

This is actually an attempt to reduce the problems that judicial
corruption can cause. A corrupt judge shouldn't be able to cause as much
damage in the new system.
> 
> Also, you forgot (?) to specify that HIDDEN is neither positive nor 
> negative.
Yes, an oversight.
> 
> Finally:
>       * change the rules so that if substantially similar 
>         circumstances to the circumstances leading to the case being 
>         called occur in the future, the analogous statement would be
>         uncontroversially true (if the judgement was positive) or 
>         uncontroversially false (if the judgement was negative), and
> 
> (Otherwise it could be interpreted as giving the judge the choice of 
> true or false in the case of negative judgements. And we wouldn't 
> want that, now would we?)
We may as well do, although a judge submitting a proposal that was
directly opposite to their judgement would certainly raise eyebrows, and
probably cause the proposal to fail.
-- 
ais523

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