On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 21:40 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: > > ais523 wrote: > > > >> "Cretans" doesn't hold here, the rule doesn't claim precedence over > >> itself. (Maybe it should be generalised to all self-contradictions?) The > >> "current holder" here is interesting; my reading is "holder at the time > >> of vote collecting". It doesn't seem ridiculously counter-common-sense > >> to me that a position, rather than a person, could be a vote collector; > >> but the rules don't seem to back my interpretation up. Unfortunately, > >> I'm not entirely sure they back up yours either; it's quite a grey area. > > > > I think Zefram once judged that the position of vote collector for > > proposals was attached to Assessor, so moved with the office; but > > this may have been superseded by subsequent explicit legislation > > one way or the other. Someone want to look up details? > > R208: > > Each Agoran decision has exactly one vote collector, defaulting > to the initiator of the decision. If the vote collector is > defined by reference to a position (or, in the default case, if > the initiator was so defined), then the vote collector is the > current holder of that position. > > In this case, the initiator is defined as the IADoP, so the collector is > also the IADoP.
The issue here is that there isn't an IADoP, and that the rule is ambiguous. (The other reading is "current holder of that position" = "current holder of IADoP" = G. as deputisation is done as if you held the position.) -- ais523
