On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, ais523 wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 13:42 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > 
> > Hmm, I'm suddenly unconvinced that Win Announcements work at all for
> > most defined win conditions.
> > 
> > A win announcement must be factually correct in announcing that
> > someone wins the game (R2186).
> 
> A win announcment need not state that someone wins the game. Most of
> mine didn't. (Normally, I make two announcements, e.g. "This is a Win
> Announcement: ais523 has 100 points", then a rules-irrelevant and
> ISIDTID "I win the game" to clarify.)

Oh but waitaminute, you can't get rid of the "and" so easily!
       A win announcement is a factually correct announcement
       explicitly labeled as a win announcement and/or clearly stating
       that one or more persons win the game.

Forgetting the "or" for a moment, the phrase:
       A win announcement is a factually correct announcement
       explicitly labeled as a win announcement and clearly stating
       that one or more persons win the game.
means you have to make a factually correct announcement that clearly
states that one or more persons has won the game.

The other way to parse it is this:
       A win announcement is 1. [a factually correct announcement
       explicitly labeled as a win announcement] 2. and clearly stating
       that one or more persons win the game.

but as you can see it doesn't work, as the "and" has to go with
"annoucement".  So it has to be:
       A win announcement is a factually correct announcement
       [explicitly labeled as a win announcement] and [clearly stating
       that one or more persons win the game].
which means that the statement of the win IS part of the announcement
and needs to be factually correct.

So, what am I missing that this works?

-G.



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