So it's regulated. And, as you say in your original post, many of us can't consider the pledge broken *and have that consideration have legal effect*. But the Referee CAN, because there's a mechanism for em to do so (Carding as a form of recognition). Maybe I'm missing the issue?
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Yes I agree with that, but due to that, it still describes a success case. > With this example I hope its more clear: > > Imagine we didn't have R7866 as it is now., and I post: > > "I pledge will give Bob 1 shiny after he gives me an Estate." > > Then he gives me an Estate. > And 3 weeks pass, and I still haven't paid Bob. Could've it have been > (legally) considered that I have broken my pledge? No, because the timeframe > where I could do it is still active. It' still > "after he gives me an Estate". > > But! With the new rule - you now can! After those three weeks, by virtue of > R7866, " A pledge may be considered broken if the pledger does not complete > it in a timely manner after it becomes > possible to do so", I've broken my pledge. That new sentence allows the > success of an otherwise unsuccessful action, by describing a condition where > such an action (such a consideration) would > succeed. > > Therefore, I believe that it is regulated. > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Ah, oh well. No thoughtcrime then lol (would'be been bizarre but > super cool though). > > Just the original loophole then, I assume, because "legal > consideration" is all it > > takes to dodge legal consequences. (No flaws in the "at the moment" > argument? All > > cool?) > > Using some legal common sense, the phrase "may be considered broken", if we > use > it as MAY, means the rules gives legal permission for people to consider the > pledge broken. > > How do we do so? Well, we MAY "recognize" that a pledge, and therefore a > rule, has > been broken. ("recognize: acknowledge the existence, validity, or legality > of.") > > Which means that one then MAY apply a card, which is, in fact, "a recognition > of a specific violation of the rules". (So this makes it LEGAL to apply a > Card > for a broken pledge; other rules limit mechanisms that make it POSSIBLE to the > Referee). > > > > > >